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Old 11-19-2005, 06:13 PM   #1
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Today was the first day I used my new floor jack to swap tires. I was jacking up the front when it slipped off the jack point. I don't think anything got bent. What am I doing wrong? The pavement is a little coarse and I don't think the jack moved.
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:42 PM   #2
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Are you jacking it from the centerplate right behind the oil pan in the front?

try putting a small (6 inch long) piece of 2 x 4 between the jack and the car.
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Old 11-19-2005, 08:42 PM   #3
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I've been using a hockey puck to jack up my car for a while and it works wonderfully. It's small and quite grippy. It also protects your rear diff and centerplate from scratches (why add unecessary scuff marks). They usually have it for a buck at sports authority.

Also make sure that you're using jackstands and NOT the actual jack to keep the car suspended. This can be a very fatal mistake if you're under the car.
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:02 PM   #4
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The jack pad swings in an arc as it goes up so you need to keep the rear jack wheels in line with the front wheels. You should put a 2x4 behind the wheels at the oposite end of your car before jacking.
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:22 PM   #5
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I've been using a hockey puck to jack up my car for a while and it works wonderfully. It's small and quite grippy. It also protects your rear diff and centerplate from scratches (why add unecessary scuff marks). They usually have it for a buck at sports authority.

Also make sure that you're using jackstands and NOT the actual jack to keep the car suspended. This can be a very fatal mistake if you're under the car.
Good idea with the hockey puck!

And yeah. Always use jackstands. I was switching my tires out yesterday and had the car jacked up with my fairly new "aluminum race jack" from pep boys. All of a sudden the damn car starts slowly coming down!!!

i don't know what the hell happened but I pulled it out, raised it to it's upper limit, went back down to the bottom and jacked the car back up and it held. Scary to think of what could have happened. I'm usually pretty paranoid about that so not only do I use jackstands but i'll throw a couple of ramps under the car for extra insurance too.
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Old 11-19-2005, 10:56 PM   #6
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I have the aluminum race jack from Pep Boys as well, actually its the combo with the aluminum jack stands. I put wheel chocks behind the rear wheels. I'm pretty sure I'm using the centerplate. I have a skidplate covering the oil pan so I know I'm not touching that by mistake.

I'll try the hockey puck suggestion.
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Old 11-19-2005, 11:02 PM   #7
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yeah, I got exactly the same combo with the aluminum jackstands. Better use 'em.
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Old 11-20-2005, 12:02 AM   #8
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I hope you guys aren't under the impression that I'm not using the jack stands. I never got the front end high enough to put the jack stands under the car. The front wheels were still on the ground when the floor jack slipped out.
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Old 11-20-2005, 03:57 AM   #9
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even if your doing tires just put it high enough to get a jackstand in there anyway. breaking stuff is expensive compared to the time of just jacking it up a few inches higher. at work i dont take even small chances when dealing with a 120000 dollar customer car. customers get pissed than i lose my job, or possibly my life.
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:59 AM   #10
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I was swaping out my tires for winter and went down to walmart to get a jack. I always used the ones that came with my cars but I thought better of it with this one. Anyway, the jack points for the cheap one that came with the car can't be used with a hydrolic floor jack. I put the jack under something that appeared to be solid and changed my tires. I don't think I did any damage, but after reading this thread I'll have to re-think where to jack the car in the future.

If you use the central location for lifting the car, then where do you put the jackstands?
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Old 11-20-2005, 02:17 PM   #11
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I was swaping out my tires for winter and went down to walmart to get a jack. I always used the ones that came with my cars but I thought better of it with this one. Anyway, the jack points for the cheap one that came with the car can't be used with a hydrolic floor jack. I put the jack under something that appeared to be solid and changed my tires. I don't think I did any damage, but after reading this thread I'll have to re-think where to jack the car in the future.

If you use the central location for lifting the car, then where do you put the jackstands?
Don't use the jacks on the factory location as it will crease that very thin piece of sheet metal. This is where I normally jack up my car:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2673
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Old 11-20-2005, 02:42 PM   #12
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I have about 6 inches of ground clearance. My jack looks something like the silver one in this link. I can't get myself under the car to find the lift point behind the engine. My wife has a forester but I have the STI and don't think I can get it on ramps. Any ideas???
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Old 11-20-2005, 03:10 PM   #13
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Rhino ramps fit.

I have to pull my car up onto a couple 2 x 12 square pieces in order to have enough travel on the jack arm to jack it up.

just look for the square plate directly behind the oil pan.
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Old 11-20-2005, 06:31 PM   #14
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Thanks, I'll have to give that a try. I'm sure that after doing it once or twice I'll be able to find that spot in the dark.
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:57 PM   #15
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I use pads from these guys for my stands and jack:

http://www.protechproducts.net/

They also make an adaptor for the factory locations. I had a block from jc whitney though before I even found out about them. Their protectors are incredibly tough.
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Old 11-21-2005, 06:14 AM   #16
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my stock jack points are all mangled up. The most retarded design ever.
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:14 PM   #17
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...I was jacking up the front when it slipped off the jack point. I don't think anything got bent. What am I doing wrong? The pavement is a little coarse and I don't think the jack moved.
The jack *should* be moving forward. As Hayes said, the jack pad moves backwards as well as up when you raise it. Since you don't want to be dragging the whole car, the jack body needs to be allowed to roll forward to compensate as you are jacking.
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:45 AM   #18
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you should try jacking up one side first and placing the stand and then the other side.
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It's stories like this that make me glad I have an inground lift in my garage.....
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Old 11-22-2005, 07:47 AM   #20
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just to add, since the jack does lift in an arc, we usually find it more stable to release the parking brake and let the car roll forward while lifting the front of the car, so that the jack isn't forced to move. only on flat surfaces of course.

safe lifting.

i lifted my RS so so many times with a small jack that the plate was actually curved in. is that a sign?? lol...
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