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Old 11-20-2005, 11:47 PM   #1
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Default Rotor/Pad Suggestion for ESP WRX

Anyone have a suggestion for Rotors and Pads for a '03 WRX running in ESP.
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Old 11-21-2005, 07:53 AM   #2
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Stock.

What kind of braking do you do? If you're a LFBer and/or like a pedal without much travel before full bite, P+ in the front and bobcats in the rear.

If you're the type that goes in and just mashes the brakes... Carbotech Bobcats all around.. which are much more forgiving to that and won't engage ABS as easily as the P+ in the front.

As far as rotors... use blank stock rotors (Can also get them from carbotech). Not even Cryo-treated ones... just plain blanks.

Above all that... if you want to throw more money at brakes, then you can go for larger calipers/rotors, something like STi Brembos/H6 conversion in the rear.... but brake calipers IMHO aren't something that need to be replaced in auto-x. Stock does just fine, even in ESP. (Just upgrade pads).

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Old 11-21-2005, 08:15 AM   #3
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I think in ESP, Calipers must stay stock, and rotors can only be different from stock replacement by drilled or slotting. So, the only real change can be the pads, in which KC very precisely explains.
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:30 AM   #4
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Well, if the wording gets changed from 'STS' to 'ST Category', if the car is legal in ST, then it's legal in the car's appropriate SP class (the only thing you'd be able to change I believe are tires and the car has to be ST legal).
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:55 AM   #5
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But if Mako was inquiring for his own car, it's not legal for ST, so he'd have to stick with the SP brake rules.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:03 AM   #6
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But if Mako was inquiring for his own car, it's not legal for ST, so he'd have to stick with the SP brake rules.
Well.. he *could* make it ST legal...

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(Forgot that part... go with Carbotech and regular blanks)
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:30 AM   #7
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Yes, my car ... I'd have to lose my Rotora Big Brakes. My first ever mod ... trying to make my car safer before adding power. I thought the oem 2 pot brakes were inadequate at the high speeds (not AX) that the WRX was capable of.

Silly that we can't forward update to the 4 pot brakes now being supplied on the '06 WRX's. Maybe for AX the 2 pot brakes are OK ... but if you also track your ESP, unlimited boost car they certainly aren't good enough. It's a safety issue imho ...


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... after 30K+ miles, starting to develop a few fine cracks around some of the drill holes. Using Ultimate Axxis pads. Didn't like the ceramic "sport" pads that Rotora had. Poor initial bite. I LFB ... deep trail braker ...
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:38 AM   #8
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*IF* The '06 goes on the same line as the '02-'05, then yes, you'd be able to upgrade to at least the '06 calpers/discs.
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I've been very happy with the Carbotech P+ on the front and rear of my car. I'm going to try the Hawk HP+ when these wear out only because I won them with ProSolo credit. I've had very good results with all the Carbotech products I've tried (P+, Bobcat, Kellated Metallic green).
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I think I heard that at least in the short term, the '06 was going on a separate line than 02-05.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:41 PM   #11
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I've been very happy with the Carbotech P+ on the front and rear of my car. I'm going to try the Hawk HP+ when these wear out only because I won them with ProSolo credit. I've had very good results with all the Carbotech products I've tried (P+, Bobcat, Kellated Metallic green).
You should do what I do, sell those certificates to chumps that will use Hawk products and keep on using Carbotech stuff

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