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Old 11-21-2005, 02:15 PM   #1
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Default Rally Tires: Anyone know where to get some cheap used ones?

For some reason, I have heard a fable about being able to get used rally tires that are no longer good for REAL rally cars, but are good enough for rallyX use. Does such a place exist on the web to order from?

I ask as I have been unsuccessful getting any tires for a 14" rim from Falken (out) and Hankook (R201s not in stock yet).

Anyone know where a decent *used* or cheap source for rally tires can be found (less than 70 per tire).

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Old 11-21-2005, 03:03 PM   #2
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Look/post under classifieds over on www.specialstage.com or www.nasaforums.com
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Old 11-21-2005, 04:50 PM   #3
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This is probably too far away for you, but these places do exist:http://www.fourstarmotorsports.com/C..._Tires_107.htm
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Old 11-21-2005, 04:58 PM   #4
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Try to find a rally team in your area, I'm sure there are some, they will gladly sell you used tires.
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:40 PM   #5
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wasn't clear what size you are after

we have piles of used gravel tires, from decent shape to quite beat to totally exploded

20+ tires -- Yokohama AO35, 205/65-15, soft, med, & hard compound, 60% to 40% worn, $25 to $50 each depending on condition

6 tires -- Michelin ZE, 15/65-15 (equivalent to 195/65 size), intermed compound, 40% worn, $50 each

6 tires -- Kumho R700, 195/65-15, soft/med compound, 40% worn, $40 each

1 Exploded Yoko AO35, $250 each (genuine racing artifact) because we almost rolled the car to blow this tire...but the incident got us on TV, yaay!

1 Smushed Michelin ZER Intermediate, only 10 stage miles from new, complete with crushed Compomotive wheel shards and vaporized granite fragments...$500 because we totaled a real nice rally car in the process of producing this particular artifact!

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Old 11-21-2005, 06:10 PM   #6
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wasn't clear what size you are after

we have piles of used gravel tires, from decent shape to quite beat to totally exploded

20+ tires -- Yokohama AO35, 205/65-15, soft, med, & hard compound, 60% to 40% worn, $25 to $50 each depending on condition

6 tires -- Michelin ZE, 15/65-15 (equivalent to 195/65 size), intermed compound, 40% worn, $50 each

6 tires -- Kumho R700, 195/65-15, soft/med compound, 40% worn, $40 each

1 Exploded Yoko AO35, $250 each (genuine racing artifact) because we almost rolled the car to blow this tire...but the incident got us on TV, yaay!

1 Smushed Michelin ZER Intermediate, only 10 stage miles from new, complete with crushed Compomotive wheel shards and vaporized granite fragments...$500 because we totaled a real nice rally car in the process of producing this particular artifact!

Dave G
www.lastditchracing.net
i saw in another thread that he is looking for 14"s.

dowroa, look up a G2 rally team. they are the ones that usually use 14"s.

however you could buy a cheap set of 15" wheels and some of the tires from rb5 clone and still be cheaper than getting 4 new rally tires. and 15" rally tires are much easier to find.

you could also volunteer to crew in exchange for old tires.
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Old 11-21-2005, 06:38 PM   #7
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Call Matt Johnson. He's probably the premier producer of used rally tires in North Carolina. Google carolinars.com and you should be able to find the boy. Tell him Roy sent you.

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Old 11-21-2005, 06:41 PM   #8
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I don't think Matt runs 14's Christian unless he still has them around from the VW. He's got the 15" kooks last I saw.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:13 PM   #9
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Right, and how much are 15" steelies?

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Old 11-22-2005, 12:04 AM   #10
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Right, and how much are 15" steelies?

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cheaper than 4 new rally tires.
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Old 11-22-2005, 12:10 AM   #11
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Oh yeah. I had some used tires, but I sent them away with the old car. Used always seems more plentiful than new when you're racing.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:09 AM   #12
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You can also purchase NEW 14" truck tires, or snow tires, or whatever, and then seriously modify them yourselves. I did this with a chisel, a sharpening belt, 4 hours and one unGodley bruised sternum later. But man do those things grip!

I removed tread in a zig-zag pattern around the tire.

XOOOO
OXOOO
OOXOO
OOOXO
OOOOX
OOOXO
OOXOO\
OXOOO
XOOOO
OXOOO
OOXOO
OOOXO
OOOOX

You get the idea. These were new cooper studded "weathermasters" or some such. I had to hand remove all the studs as well. Sore wrist..... The tread was/is very wide open and about 5/8" deep.
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Old 11-22-2005, 10:24 AM   #13
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Wow -- reddevil --- thats alot of work, ever heard of a tire grooving tool?
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Old 11-22-2005, 10:31 AM   #14
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Wow -- reddevil --- thats alot of work, ever heard of a tire grooving tool?
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Old 11-22-2005, 11:44 AM   #15
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You can also purchase NEW 14" truck tires, or snow tires, or whatever, and then seriously modify them yourselves. I did this with a chisel, a sharpening belt, 4 hours and one unGodley bruised sternum later. But man do those things grip!
I was thinking about using light truck tires instead of carrying gravel tires with me and changing them on the side of the road, but it's hard to find tires that aren't way too big. There are a few that come in the 26.5" overall diameter range which might fit without rubbing, but then when you compare the cost you might as well get real gravel tires and be done with it.
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Old 11-22-2005, 03:11 PM   #16
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You can also purchase NEW 14" truck tires, or snow tires, or whatever, and then seriously modify them yourselves. I did this with a chisel, a sharpening belt, 4 hours and one unGodley bruised sternum later. But man do those things grip!

I removed tread in a zig-zag pattern around the tire.

XOOOO
OXOOO
OOXOO
OOOXO
OOOOX
OOOXO
OOXOO\
OXOOO
XOOOO
OXOOO
OOXOO
OOOXO
OOOOX

You get the idea. These were new cooper studded "weathermasters" or some such. I had to hand remove all the studs as well. Sore wrist..... The tread was/is very wide open and about 5/8" deep.
do you know you can get the weatermasters w/out studs?
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Old 11-22-2005, 03:19 PM   #17
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I would like to thank everyone for their input. I have bothered enough people trying to get this lined up quickly, and all the information in this thread has helped out greatly.

As for using 'winter tires', they are already considered 'rally tires' for me locally, so I am not going to do that when a rally tire would be more likely what I would want. Any cutting of 'all seasons' make the tires rally tires as well.

Going up to 15's will be a project in the future as this is a low expendature project, and I am trying to keep all the costs to a minimum. Lets just say that the cost of one new rally tire = 50% the cost of the car .

I appreciate all the help, and all those helping me with PMs. I will in touch shortly

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