Originally Posted by Car #187
What would you use these for? Where on earth would stuff like this pass tech? This looks better than the Cusco junk cages, but only marginally. Anyone putting a cage in their car who isn't studing a rule book (SOLO I, Rally America, drag racing, what ever) is wasting their time and making their car less safe. All of these "cages" rule out back seat passengers, or at least severly endanger them!
I wouldn't "attack" your product if you posted it in the Vendor Forsale forums, but you posted it in Motorsport so it's all up for debate.
Thanks for your "attack", I welcome it. I, being a SFI certified Rally America Scrutineer plus I answer safety questions all day long for 5 days a week gives me a great perspective on the subject.
The 4 point Autopower Race Roll Bar kit is legal for SCCA SOLO 1 & 2 (http://scca.com/_filelibrary/File/2005SoloRules.pdf
), see page 235. They are not legal for much else. In my opinion these are huge safety upgrades over a bone stock street car and a strong "should have" for anyone doing track days and really pushing it. Want to do a hillclimb?
The 6 point bolt in Autopower Race Roll Cage like the one pictured above is legal for NHRA drag rules for cars running faster than 11.99 but slower than 9.99. It's also legal for the above mentioned SCCA SOLO 1 & 2 (duh) but also legal for SCCA Club Racing in certain classes like Showroom Stock. Yes we are talking about bolt in cages in full on SCCA wheel to wheel track raceing here. It's legal and you can read all about in the SCCA rule book here on page 116 (http://www.scca.com/_Filelibrary/Fil...itionRules.pdf
Rally? Well forget about Autopower cage kits in rally. They won't pass tech as they come from the factory. However FIA, NASA and CARS rally rules do allow for bolt in cages that meet the requirments that they list. Autopower cages do not fit within those rules however.
In my profesional opinion being the owner of a company called "Safe Drives" (www.safedrives.com
) I think bolt in cages have a place within the rules that have been laid out above. I also, and I may get flamed a bit here, think that they have a place on the street for those of us that want to improve our safety as drivers and front seat passangers. Of course with any cage or roll bar proper padding
is very important and it's even more important in a street driven vehicle that has steel tube running through the interior. A bolt in roll bar or cage adds structure, mass, rigidity and integrity to any vehicle and that improves safety over a bone stock vehicle.
I should also comment that if you add a roll bar or cage to your street car that you really should add a 4+ point harness preferably with a SFI or FIA certification asap. Next on your list should be a proper FIA spec race seat since your seat is a critical part of yours or any safety system.
Also, weld in roll bar and cage kits are stronger and as such safer than a bolt in (another duh?).
I do hope this has helped.
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