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Old 11-22-2005, 02:59 AM   #1
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Hi All,

Bolt in roll bars and cages by Autopower Industries in San Diego California are now available for all Impreza models.

Autopower has been building primarily bolt in SCCA spec rollover protection for over 30 years. All Autopower products are built to the letter of the SCCA rulebook on rollover protection.

These are avialable for all GC and GDx Imprezas made from 1993 onward including all WRX (yes coupe, sedan and wagon) and WRX STi models. These kits clear all standard interior and trim. You can even keep your back seat installed if you so choose.

4 point bolt in rear only roll bars.

Street-Sport:

$374.95
The Street-Sport kit we really feel is the minimum requirement for a four point + harness installation. The harness bar on the Street-Sport kit is removable. For more information or to buy your kit please click here.

Race roll bar:

$329.95
The race roll bar adds a diagonal in the main hoop. This diagonal does not impede in the front drivers and passengers seat area at all. This is the minimum spec roll bar for many race and hill climb rules. For more information or to buy your kit please click here.

Race roll bar with options:

Starts at just $399.90!
The ultimate Autopower 4 point roll bar gives you options of having a bolt in diagonal and bolt in harness bars! Each optional bar adds $59.95 to the cost of your regular race roll bar ($329.95). A fully optioned race roll bar complete with bolt in diagonal and bolt in harness bars is just $459.85. For more information or to buy your kit please click here.

6 point bolt in race roll cage:

These are avialable for all GDx Imprezas made from 2002 onward including all WRX (yes sedan and wagon) and WRX STi models. These kits clear all standard interior and trim.


$674.95

The door bars are bolt in and removeable. For more information or to buy your kit please click here.

Let me know if you have any questions, I'm generally available M-F, 8-6 Pacific time.

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Old 11-22-2005, 08:09 AM   #2
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Do you know what the weight of the sport rollbar is?
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Old 11-22-2005, 09:35 AM   #3
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I wouldn't "attack" your product if you posted it in the Vendor Forsale forums, but you posted it in Motorsport so it's all up for debate.

edit - Oops, now it's in the vendor forum, so I'll delete the negativity...

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Old 11-22-2005, 12:02 PM   #4
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Do you know what the weight of the sport rollbar is?
Around 70 lbs.

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Old 11-22-2005, 01:01 PM   #5
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What would you use these for? Where on earth would stuff like this pass tech? This looks better than the Cusco junk cages, but only marginally. Anyone putting a cage in their car who isn't studing a rule book (SOLO I, Rally America, drag racing, what ever) is wasting their time and making their car less safe. All of these "cages" rule out back seat passengers, or at least severly endanger them!

I wouldn't "attack" your product if you posted it in the Vendor Forsale forums, but you posted it in Motorsport so it's all up for debate.
Hi,

Thanks for your "attack", I welcome it. I, being a SFI certified Rally America Scrutineer plus I answer safety questions all day long for 5 days a week gives me a great perspective on the subject.

The 4 point Autopower Race Roll Bar kit is legal for SCCA SOLO 1 & 2 (http://scca.com/_filelibrary/File/2005SoloRules.pdf), see page 235. They are not legal for much else. In my opinion these are huge safety upgrades over a bone stock street car and a strong "should have" for anyone doing track days and really pushing it. Want to do a hillclimb?

The 6 point bolt in Autopower Race Roll Cage like the one pictured above is legal for NHRA drag rules for cars running faster than 11.99 but slower than 9.99. It's also legal for the above mentioned SCCA SOLO 1 & 2 (duh) but also legal for SCCA Club Racing in certain classes like Showroom Stock. Yes we are talking about bolt in cages in full on SCCA wheel to wheel track raceing here. It's legal and you can read all about in the SCCA rule book here on page 116 (http://www.scca.com/_Filelibrary/Fil...itionRules.pdf).

Rally? Well forget about Autopower cage kits in rally. They won't pass tech as they come from the factory. However FIA, NASA and CARS rally rules do allow for bolt in cages that meet the requirments that they list. Autopower cages do not fit within those rules however.

In my profesional opinion being the owner of a company called "Safe Drives" (www.safedrives.com) I think bolt in cages have a place within the rules that have been laid out above. I also, and I may get flamed a bit here, think that they have a place on the street for those of us that want to improve our safety as drivers and front seat passangers. Of course with any cage or roll bar proper padding is very important and it's even more important in a street driven vehicle that has steel tube running through the interior. A bolt in roll bar or cage adds structure, mass, rigidity and integrity to any vehicle and that improves safety over a bone stock vehicle.

I should also comment that if you add a roll bar or cage to your street car that you really should add a 4+ point harness preferably with a SFI or FIA certification asap. Next on your list should be a proper FIA spec race seat since your seat is a critical part of yours or any safety system.

Also, weld in roll bar and cage kits are stronger and as such safer than a bolt in (another duh?).

I do hope this has helped.

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Old 11-23-2005, 08:32 AM   #6
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finally a bolt in gc application
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:04 PM   #7
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would you find to have pics of those installed in a car?
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:03 PM   #8
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Autopower used my GC8 for this fitment.
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:12 PM   #9
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Coupe or sedan?
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Old 11-23-2005, 04:10 PM   #10
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Coupe or sedan?
Well Autopower seems to think that this kit should work in all of the '93 to 2001 models, coupe, sedan and wagon.

Hi Porsche914boxer4, thanks again for letting Autopower use your car! Which kit did you get? Can you please post some pics?

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Old 11-25-2005, 11:51 PM   #11
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Finally got around to installing my Autopower cage in my WRX Wagon.





All pictures here:
http://www.mickandsarah.com/WRX-Wago...all/index.html

Other than my horrible cutting of the seat trim the install went very well. (Last pitcure)

Need to get some padding for the bars now.

And a couple of pictures of what's powering my little wagon at the moment. This is the Perrin GT30R Rotated mount setup being shown off on my built 2L. Last pictures in the group you can see it installed on my new built 2.5L block currently in the car.

http://www.mickandsarah.com/Perrin-G...tup/index.html
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Old 11-25-2005, 11:52 PM   #12
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Do you happen to have the part numbers for each of these kits?
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:49 PM   #13
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Well Autopower seems to think that this kit should work in all of the '93 to 2001 models, coupe, sedan and wagon.

Hi Porsche914boxer4, thanks again for letting Autopower use your car! Which kit did you get? Can you please post some pics?

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Charles: I didn't pick a kit out yet, I haven't yet figured out which one of my cars should get a rollbar set up. With the huge $$$ they wanted to install a roll kit ($700!) I am really in no hurry either.

I might just ask for the hookup on some harnesses or something instead.

Eli
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Old 11-28-2005, 04:31 AM   #14
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haha my passengers dont seem like they'd be very comfy with this
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Comfy? They'd have to have a death wish to sit in the back seat with that! I'm sure people do it all the time and so far everyone is ok, but it can't possibly be safe in a 35mph + accident. Someone's head WILL hit those bars...
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anyone that rolls around with one of these kits on the streets without FULL harnesses on will get hurt in an accident.
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Old 11-28-2005, 01:16 PM   #17
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Do you happen to have the part numbers for each of these kits?
Yes I do.

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Old 11-29-2005, 07:20 PM   #18
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Comfy? They'd have to have a death wish to sit in the back seat with that! I'm sure people do it all the time and so far everyone is ok, but it can't possibly be safe in a 35mph + accident. Someone's head WILL hit those bars...
um...

nobody's saying that's a good idea. people would barely fit anyways. seems like your searching for some way to snipe a perfectly good, normal product.

So I guess all roll bars in rear seats of cars are stupid

yeah, there's no precendent against you there...
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Charles are there data available for the types of testing (crash testing, limitations, etc.) done to the 6point bolt-on roll cage?

Much appreciated.

--Jojo
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:38 PM   #20
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Charles are there data available for the types of testing (crash testing, limitations, etc.) done to the 6point bolt-on roll cage?

Much appreciated.

--Jojo
Hi Jojo,

That's a great question. Sadly, in the USA these types of cages are not tested or certified by a testing company at all. Autopower does build the bolt in cage to the letter of the SCCA rulebook for competition bolt in cage kits. With that you could go track racing with the SCCA (or even NASA ect.). So the SCCA and other sanctioning bodies, at this point anyway, allow this cage type in competition.

Are they safe? Certainly safer than a car with no cage at all. They are not nearly as safe as a weld in cage though.

I do hope this helps.

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you have these instock?
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Old 01-19-2006, 09:12 PM   #22
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Each Autopower cage kit is built to order. This time of year you can figure 3-4 weeks for delivery. We do have another GC cage going into production next week though so if you ordered right away then you would probably get your kit in 14-18 days from today.

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Thanks for the quick response Charles.
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What are tubing sizes and wall thicknesses? I assume these are DOM seamless tubing? Can they be built to be a weld in cage that would work for SCCA SPO?
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What are tubing sizes and wall thicknesses? I assume these are DOM seamless tubing?
According to the website the bars are 1.75" by 0.120" DOM mild steel.

Safe Drives:
What is the weight for a fully optioned race rollbar (i.e. the race rollbar with a welded diagonal and welded harness bar)?

Shane -- SM 729

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