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Old 03-01-2006, 10:42 PM   #76
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who ever makes this lift i am pretty certian they will have to stand behind it. i am an extremly mechanically inclined person (an engineer) and i will be sure to report back with my findings on this lift, i am probably not the best person to test something like this on because i WILL strongly criticize the build quality and installation process. i am used to dealing with OEM manufacture's subaru being one of them and i expect nothing less than top notch quality. after all this is a BRAND NEW vehicle.
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Old 03-04-2006, 08:33 PM   #77
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Another thing that makes it difficult to fabricate a 4" lift for the newer subaru's is that unlike earlier cars newer ones are now unibody and not what I like to call a ladder frame where the body is seperate from the frame itself.
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Old 03-10-2006, 08:22 AM   #78
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Another thing that makes it difficult to fabricate a 4" lift for the newer subaru's is that unlike earlier cars newer ones are now unibody and not what I like to call a ladder frame where the body is seperate from the frame itself.
Its been a LONG time since Subaru made a traditional frame.
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Old 03-10-2006, 10:46 PM   #79
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Subaru has used a unibody chassis for as long as i can remember.No body on Frame design.So designing a lift should be the same as the older unibody chassis.
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Old 03-11-2006, 01:46 PM   #80
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Default The Designing of A lift.....

Ok, Your right Subaru has used a unibody chassis for a very long time...I think since they began building cars in the early 60's...?

But the frame and suspension design has undergone some very major changes from then to now.....

Very first and In my book the biggest difference is in design of the strut assembly. If you look at a car from say a 1978 wagon to around a 1990 Loyale you will see that the struts front or rear DO NOT OVERLAP the wheel and tire. But from The Legacy on up to the present they not only made the struts NON ADJUSTABLE but the COIL BASE sits well over the tire. This becomes a very MAJOR ISSUE when trying to put larger diameter tires on any of these cars.

I plan to Eliminate this ISSUE....

Next the way that the earlier suspension delt with camber and caster allignment were way different than the Legacy or Newer vehicles...and there is a MAJOR difference in suspension from 90-00 and from 00 up to now....

on the Loyale and OLDER models you can put blocks everywhere and pretty much just go with it as a Lift.....

Blocks alone won't net you the Full lift effect in any Newer GEN car....

So as I said in my earlier Post I have a 4" Kit promised out the end of April....and It will be a Kit that anyone with ok mechanical skills can install themselves in a weekend or even a day with a few buds involved...I am going to take Pics of the install process so I can write a Install booklet for it as well.....

This will NOT BE A 650.00 KIT but I will Guarentee it is a Top quality Kit and Something worth showing off Anywhere you travel with it....I stand behind All product I build, and Have not had anything come back to me broken due to my craftmanship.......

Chat Soon, John
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Old 03-14-2006, 08:05 AM   #81
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Okay Scorpion suspension lift for the '03 and earlier Bajas aside, it seems we now got three lift kits in the works:

Allied Armament
Backyard Boys/Ozified
MudRat

I know I personally would rather spend more for a quality kit than something chinsy. Duh... Does that go without saying? I have an '05 and spent more than 20 grand so why would I want something half-assed? But if AA is going to provide a decent, cheap lift and Mudrat will provide a larger (4-inch!), higher quality kit, I say these will all probably be viable options to the consumer since money is an issue for some, as is not wanting the hassles of lifting too high. Anyway, I just wanted to say good luck to all these vendors and thank you in advance for R&Ding something for our rare cars.

Now all I can say is, "Who will survive and what will be left of them?"
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Old 03-28-2006, 09:23 AM   #82
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Default Updates?

So, is there any new news on the AA lift project? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Old 03-29-2006, 05:05 AM   #83
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About 80% of the lift is finished, I don't know how to post pictures so if someone can help with some advice I will put the pictures up and show the components they go with. After the last parts are finalized we are going to stuff them on our car and test it.. As for pictures I can have them up by tuesday night of next week (I am in california right now).
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Old 03-29-2006, 09:45 AM   #84
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About 80% of the lift is finished, I don't know how to post pictures so if someone can help with some advice I will put the pictures up and show the components they go with. After the last parts are finalized we are going to stuff them on our car and test it.. As for pictures I can have them up by tuesday night of next week (I am in california right now).
you have to upload them to a source like photobucket.com
then just insert the html code.
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Old 04-21-2006, 12:41 AM   #85
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(Birds chirping and frogs croaking...)

(Dogs howling in distance...)

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Old 04-21-2006, 07:55 AM   #86
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what's going on with this? i would love to see how it turns out, b/c i want a lift...
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Old 04-21-2006, 09:25 AM   #87
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No word on our lift yet, /shrug
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Old 05-08-2006, 08:54 AM   #88
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Come on AA, how about an update?

Picutures?

I guess the job turned out to be a little trickier than first thought.

Perry
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Old 05-16-2006, 05:05 PM   #89
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well guys, i decided to e mail AA and see if there were any updates

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Sorry for no recent updates. We just havenít moved forward on the project in a while because there was such a lack of interest in the lift. We have all of our man power tied up right now building these world war II firearms right now, and I donít know when will switch over to building lifts again. They will eventually be done, but for the time being we are just swamped on current projects
it sounds like no one but ME supported them and i can understand why they wont put any engineering time into building a lift for one guy.
im sure if there were others that showed intrest they may persue the project but for now its on the back burner.
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Old 05-16-2006, 07:29 PM   #90
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BUUUUT the have it lsted on thier site...
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Old 05-17-2006, 03:09 AM   #91
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Did anyone fork over money ahead of time? If so, did you get a refund? I thought they said the lift was 80% done so it seems odd to bail out on it suddenly. I think they just got in over their head and couldn't figure out a way to lift the rear. Don't worry, neither could anyone else, at least not cheaply. I guess I'll just slam mine and put some Rota 18-inchers on it.
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Old 05-17-2006, 09:52 AM   #92
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Did anyone fork over money ahead of time? If so, did you get a refund? I thought they said the lift was 80% done so it seems odd to bail out on it suddenly. I think they just got in over their head and couldn't figure out a way to lift the rear. Don't worry, neither could anyone else, at least not cheaply. I guess I'll just slam mine and put some Rota 18-inchers on it.
i sent CC info but was never charged for the lift, so the short answer is no, no one sent them any money.
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Old 10-09-2006, 09:49 AM   #93
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so.....whatever happened here?
sounds like a scam.....
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:51 AM   #94
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Not a scam, just not enough buyer's to make it worth the R & D for Allied.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:22 AM   #95
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So as I said in my earlier Post I have a 4" Kit promised out the end of April....and It will be a Kit that anyone with ok mechanical skills can install themselves in a weekend or even a day with a few buds involved...I am going to take Pics of the install process so I can write a Install booklet for it as well.....
Maybe if this statement wasn't so seemingly absolute, people might not have been disappointed.

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Old 10-10-2006, 03:45 PM   #96
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i want one really bad, and i swear by the country i swore to pretect, if i were in oregan or with in 300 miles he'd had mine to test it! but i'm on the east coast and married with kids and don't have time to spend 400-500 bucks on something that won't work. i see it work, i'll get one as soon as i have the money!
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