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Old 11-29-2005, 07:57 PM   #1
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Question Neutral safety switch...?

So I found this 95 Subaru Legacy for sale... The ad reads: "Selling due to neutral safety switch, cannot get it into gear and the batt is gone." Car is under $1000...problem is I have no idea what that means. what are some possibilities of the problem with the nuetral safety switch? Cheap fix and maybe the owner doesnt know? Thanks
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Old 11-30-2005, 01:58 PM   #2
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:26 PM   #3
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So I found this 95 Subaru Legacy for sale... The ad reads: "Selling due to neutral safety switch, cannot get it into gear and the batt is gone." Car is under $1000...problem is I have no idea what that means. what are some possibilities of the problem with the nuetral safety switch? Cheap fix and maybe the owner doesnt know? Thanks
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(This post is assuming we're talking about an auto tranny) This does sound a bit fishy to me. Is it just the neutral safety switch or did the tranny completely go to hell? Who knows. I'm assuming this "neutral safety switch" is the shift lock, that is, the mechanism that requires you to step on the brake pedal before you can shift out of park.

All the cars I've driven with this feature has had an emergency bypass in case the switch fails, so it seems odd that the car would be undriveable only due to this.

Of course it's possible that the seller is clueless and only thinks the tranny is borked, but it's equally possible the seller is spinning a yarn.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:44 PM   #4
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I don't know exactly what Subaru does with their auto trannys, but there's 3 different things that come to mind. All 3 because of various USA laws to protect us from ourselves...

Starter interlock. The car isn't supposed to start unless the shifter is in P or N. That's the 'true' neutral-safety switch. Sometimes this is a mis-adjusted pointer mechanism down at the shift lever.

Brake interlock. The shift lever is supposed to lock itself in P & can't shift unless you're stepping on the brake pedal. Sometimes this is a simple loose switch on the brake pedal.

Key-cylinder interlock. The lock-cylinder has a latching mechanism that won't let the key out when the engine's running. Another exercise in flaky switches & wiring...

Each one of these might be a simple fix. But if it IS simple, why hasn't the seller already fixed it??
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:02 PM   #5
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is it auto or manual? manuals have neutral safety switches on the case (sensor) if it goes bad, the car tries to shut itself off between shifts...
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:35 PM   #6
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:02 AM   #7
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easy fix or no?
Unless you have the car checked out by someone knowledgeable there's no way to know whether it's just the switch or if the tranny is borked.
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if its a manual....it was cake on a 03 RS, should be easy to get to.
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:29 AM   #9
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The car is an auto.

There should be a little spot where you can insert a key or something to be able to move the gear selector from park.
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The car is an auto.

There should be a little spot where you can insert a key or something to be able to move the gear selector from park.
That's what I was getting at too - usu. it's something simple like that so this sounds like one of those "oh the convertible top doesn't work but it's only a blown fuse" kind of deals.
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easy fix or no?
How can we answer that if we don't really know what's up? I gave 3 possibilities, but each one could be simple or not. You've got to do some checking, we can't actually test the car from here...
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