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Old 09-06-2001, 03:02 AM   #1
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ok heres the thing that worring me. i just got my rotors and i'm getting them installed this weekend and i like em (btw its x-drilled) but as i went to the "brake, suspention" forum i heard that they sucked. now im not gonna say i believe them but i have to exp. it myself b4 i go and say that they do. but for all you out there that have these kind of rotors, how do they do street wise, any improvments over stock and what about snow would it crack easily? either way i have em now and just wanna find out how i can avoid the prob. that these people say about em.

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Old 09-06-2001, 08:24 AM   #2
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Let me explain something to you about this board:

If you can imagine a passel of dogs, all grouped around one tree, you'll have an idea about the mentality. There is some good information that gets out of the personal bias and hooraw, but it's mostly just dogs pissing on the tree, that tree being defined as the opinions and choices of other i-Club members.

Unfortunately, there isn't anyone in this forum who drove my GT wagon and can attest to how well it worked with a KVR CD rotor/carbon fibre pad combination. Even if your CD rotors don't work any BETTER than solid ones (something still to be proven decisively) they won't work any WORSE, either.

This board can be a good place, in that you find out answers to some questions that you might have. It can also be a nest of pit vipers that breeds uncertainty and feelings that you made the wrong choice with your suspension/brake/boost controller/sway bar/whatever.

Don't let it get to you. Just get them cryo'd, as I did, at some place like 300 Below, which is good advice period, and use them in good health.

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Old 09-06-2001, 10:07 AM   #3
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Hey VOLTIS5, it's nice to see that at least one of us Napervillians can afford parts. In any case, I take mixed opinions about mods/parts very lightly. I say heed what others say but don't let that be your decision as well. If I had the extra money, I'd probably give cross-drilled rotors a try. In the end if you really don't like them, at least they're parts that need regular replacement. AND instead of saying "I heard cross-drilled rotors aren't very good", you can say "I tried them, and [insert comment here]."

BTW, did you get new pads? What kind?

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Old 09-06-2001, 10:30 AM   #4
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yes, i did get new pads but not the kind gtguy's usin. too much $$$ for me . i got ceramics on front and organic in the back, i dont know if this comb. is any good but i'll give it a try. any of you guys tried these type of pads b4? any comments on them?

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BTW AG, it took me 2 months to save up enough $$$ JUST for the rotors
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Old 09-06-2001, 11:52 AM   #5
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Don't worry about it you'll be OK.
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Old 09-06-2001, 03:33 PM   #6
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XD rotor will be fine. IMO, it just wont' give you much advantage over the non drilled rotors.

I do however, wonder if those rotors are designed to be drilled. Althouh in most cases, people will get away with it, but I think few of them will eventually crack.
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Old 09-06-2001, 06:37 PM   #7
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VOLTIS5 - This question you've asked is a timeless debate. Being that it's a part you'll need to replace down the line b/c of normal wear and tear anyways, it's always best to try it out to form your own opinion.

I've used x-drilled and slotted rotors on all my cars. I by far find x-drilled rotors much better for street use.

I wouldn't endorse anything that I can get for the Subaru community that I haven't tried myself.

gtguy got his pads and rotors from the first GB I set-up. Patrick Olsen hasn't used the ones that I've been doing for the GB (or any x-drilled rotors to my knowledge). So you make your own decision.

Ultimately, if proper break-in procedures are followed, they will last longer than stock rotors under the same conditions.
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Old 09-06-2001, 08:06 PM   #8
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hey Kevin,

did you get that idea to use 300Below from me?

That's where i got my X-drilled rotors cryo'd. I've auto-xed a couple of times on my brakes, made numerous emergency stops and plain driven maniacal too, and I've had no problem with my brakes.

Oh I also have the EBC Green pads: NO i don't have major dusting or any squeeling at all. I have the SPO cf pads for the rear. Those squeeled a bit. But nothing the anti-squeel paste/jel put on the pads when you installed them won't handle. Oh yeah yeah...i have S/S lines with Neo Dot4 fluid too...

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Old 09-07-2001, 12:19 PM   #9
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thanks for the info guys. i guess i just really have to find out for myself to see how these rotors do and then have my opinoin on it down the road .
BTW whats "cryo'd"?
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Old 09-07-2001, 02:05 PM   #10
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Cryogenic treatment, which is essentially freezing something to a temperature nearing 300 below zero, then gradually bringing it back up to room temperature. It has been proven to make metal stronger and more durable. Go to www.300below.com, which should have plenty of information.

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Old 09-07-2001, 09:45 PM   #11
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I have the KVR pads and slotted rotors from GTBGUYs latest group buy.

They rock. Really. Soooo much better than stock rotors and the axxiss/repco pads I had on.

The slots keep the rotors and pads nice and cleaned off, or so I've observed. Downside is lots of black dust, but I can live with that.
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Old 09-08-2001, 02:29 AM   #12
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Hey for a really good site dealing with freezing you rotors check out www.frozenrotors.com
they are a Minnesota company that supports Rallying and the Soob community here in MN. At the pre race party for the Ojibwe State Forest Rally they donated a door prize of 1 complete set of rotors cryo'd. I did not win that one but I won the Soob rally blue jacket made by LL Bean!
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Old 09-08-2001, 08:10 PM   #13
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this was dramatically more polite than the other discussion. Should I start a fire here? CD rotors SUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

j/k guys I think that we beat that horse to death. They will probably do just fine, but hey let us know.

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Old 09-08-2001, 08:55 PM   #14
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Thats coming from a guy who bought my stock exhast then got upset because it didn't fit. He did not even ask if I had a sedan or wagon when he bought it. I had a sedan so the exhaust was about 6" short. Just messing with you South. Did you get it extended to fit?

PS- Get some than you can bitch about how bad they suck.
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Old 09-08-2001, 10:39 PM   #15
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Originally posted by gtguy
Unfortunately, there isn't anyone in this forum who drove my GT wagon and can attest to how well it worked with a KVR CD rotor/carbon fibre pad combination.
You took me for a ride and I kissed the dashboard several times... I can definitely attest to how well that wagon stopped. Most impressive thing I've felt in such a large (no offense) vehicle.
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Old 09-09-2001, 10:48 PM   #16
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Hmmm, when did I get upset? Anyway,I did get it worked out HIHO. I knew you had a sedan(not to many donor GT wagons available, gotta take what you can get.) I kinda had hoped the length difference was in the midpipe(nope-tailpipe.) I posted but I couldnt get it pinned down, but it was no prob to fix.

On the brake agenda, I tell you what I would really like as far as rotors go is a two piece rotor (maybe slotted.) You listening GTBGUY??? I think hes keeping up with the WRX brake developments. I want some weight savings if I can get it.
My latest brake upgrade has been to the WRX setup on my wagon, I can definitely FEEL a difference. I would recommend this to anyone. I went from a 10.2" rotor to an 11.4" and single pot to 2-pot. Definitely stops a lot better I think. Need to wear out the RE92s and get some better rubber next.

Edit: rotor dim.

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