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Old 04-14-2006, 12:59 AM   #26
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i've installed a Recaro SRD into my 06 TR. the airbag light is on, where can i buy a resistor for it?

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Old 04-18-2006, 07:03 PM   #27
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i've installed a Recaro SRD into my 06 TR. the airbag light is on, where can i buy a resistor for it?
I got mine for free from NASIOC member ljaviation.
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Old 04-25-2006, 12:11 AM   #28
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Okay So all of this sounds like a pain in the butt. And theres no gauruntee how the airbag systems will perform once in an impact... seems kinda too risky, I remember when I totalled my Camaro and the airbag knocked me out and gave me a concusion having those sensors working correctly and telling how fast/hard to deploy the airbags is crucial. And Im asuming the 04-05 STI's dont have the same sensors in em, so the easiest and "bolt in" swap would be the 06 STI seats in a 06 WRX, only correct?
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Old 04-25-2006, 02:56 AM   #29
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yes, but is it not the "same chair" except for the fabric (not reffering to the TR model)
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Old 04-25-2006, 03:54 AM   #30
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...I've sat in the 'regular' wrx seat....GIMMEONERIGHTNOWANDGETOUTAMYWAY!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!1
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Old 04-25-2006, 04:36 AM   #31
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...I've sat in the 'regular' wrx seat....GIMMEONERIGHTNOWANDGETOUTAMYWAY!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!1
um..... u must be big. coz i found the TR seats(02-03 seats) more supportive than the regular WRX seats.
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Old 04-25-2006, 04:44 AM   #32
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the STI seats are terrible. They are too wide and too flat across the middle - and the padding is too firm across the middle so you kind of just perch on them instead of sitting in them.
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Old 04-25-2006, 10:23 PM   #33
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lol man anythings better then the TR seats, hell I think the STI seats are more comfortable and hold you abit better then TR seats and WRX seats, maybe its the material? I just want something different then the TR seats, but I dont wanna mess with my airbag system AT ALL. I was in a head on collision before and it was bad alot of people got injured and we were alive because of the airbags. But Im SO damn uncomfortable in the subaru.
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Old 04-25-2006, 10:23 PM   #34
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oh yeah and that recaro seat is the SHIBBY
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Old 04-25-2006, 11:28 PM   #35
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THE GOD DAMNED '02-'03 SEATS ARE NOT---SAY THAT AGAIN----NOT THE SAME AS THE TR SEATS GOD DAMN IT ALL TO HELL AND BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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um..... u must be big. coz i found the TR seats(02-03 seats) more supportive than the regular WRX seats.
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Old 04-25-2006, 11:47 PM   #36
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So wait, are you saying they ARE or ARE NOT the same??


















































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Old 04-26-2006, 12:17 AM   #37
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THE GOD DAMNED '02-'03 SEATS ARE NOT---SAY THAT AGAIN----NOT THE SAME AS THE TR SEATS GOD DAMN IT ALL TO HELL AND BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how r they different besides the color and material?

as far as i know,

02-03 WRX seats = 06 TR seats(besides color and material)
04-05 WRX/STi seats = 06 regular/limited WRX seats(besides color and material)

the 02-03 WRX seats r known to be more comfortable and supportive than the 04-05 WRX seats. so how r the 06 regualr WRX seats better than TR seats?


bottom line: all stock USDM seats suck, so just get JDM or aftermarket seats
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:13 AM   #38
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Dude the 06 TR seats are NOTHING like the 02-03 seats. ANd the 02-03 seats are the best USDM seats you can buy, there basically the same as the JDM seats from what I hear, there very comfortable, supportive, they just look ugly as hell, They also have damn near the same fabric on the sides as the STI seats. My seats SUCK, there to hard, not as highly bolstered, not supportive and UGLY as sin. and regular WRX seats are NOT the same as STI seats, The fabric is different and the actually backing is different, You sink into STI seats more so then WRX seats, and with the STI seats yo uget slightly more leg room, there more or less Kind of like the 02-03 seats. And JDM seats are overly priced, and no matter how uncomfortable I am Im not giving up my airbags. in either case, my question is are all the sensors and crap on the 06 STI seats the same as the crap thats on the 05 seats. I can get 05 STI seats easy, 06? Hell Subarus having enough trouble selling the whole damn car.
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:42 AM   #39
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they look very similar to me




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Old 04-26-2006, 02:04 AM   #40
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It appears quite clear to me that every single cut and contour of the TR is DIFFERENT from the 02 seat.

Notice the height of the thigh bolster, the contour of the kidney bolsters, the depth in the whole thing, the flat tapering shape around the rear portion of the seat cushion.

They are clearly not at all similar except that they are both seats.
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Old 04-26-2006, 07:53 PM   #41
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It appears quite clear to me that every single cut and contour of the TR is DIFFERENT from the 02 seat.

Notice the height of the thigh bolster, the contour of the kidney bolsters, the depth in the whole thing, the flat tapering shape around the rear portion of the seat cushion.

They are clearly not at all similar except that they are both seats.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:34 AM   #42
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They are clearly not at all similar except that they are both seats.
agreed, im not sure why there is a debate here.

The 06 TR seats are WAY different than the 02-03 seats that i had in my 02 rs. Sitting in my 02 seats i could feel the side bolsters hugging me. the 02 seat also had more of a deeper/bucket feeling to it. you can clearly see this in ommmjidos comparison picture.

06 seats the side bolsters are shorter, rounder and they go out and AWAY from the driver making them MUCH wider. I cannot get my sides to touch the bolsters unless i actually slide side to side in the seat. even then it is evident that the bolster is not as aggressive as that of the 02. The 06 seats seem firmer and flatter aswell.

As myself and others have mentioned in past threads, an easy way to paint the picture is to say that you sit IN the 02-03 seats and ONTOP of the 06 seats.

in my06 i always found myself leaning my right elbow on the armrest and resting my right side on the bolster. no support.

which is why , yesterday i installed a sparco prodrive edition fixed back seat! and WOW is this a tight seat!!!
unbolt 4 bolts from floor,
unplugged all the sensors under the stock seat, removed the seat belt bracket, and pulled the fatman seat out of the car.
bolt the seatbelt acceptor bracket back onto the sparco mount, plug in the annoying seatbelt detection harness and bolt the seat into the car. NO Issue.
airbag light is on, im going to have to find some resistors.
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Old 05-02-2006, 03:49 PM   #43
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Hey guys, I found my camera to PC cable. Pics are now up at this thread.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=996050
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Old 05-02-2006, 05:13 PM   #44
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The seats are 'Fat-Ass-I-Fied' for '06
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:56 PM   #45
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The seats are 'Fat-Ass-I-Fied' for '06
The seats suck whether you have a fat ass, narrow ass, or noassatall. The problem has nothing to do with the width.

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Old 05-02-2006, 10:15 PM   #46
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...I meant that as an all encompasing term...not just the Buttocks area...

...and its okay for me to say it cause I'm definately bigger than most u guys at 240 6'1
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I am going to get a lot more serious now about researching the requirements to swap in an aftermarket seat into my STI ... yesterday I ordered myself a pair of Recaro Sport seats, and they should be here in about a month. It would be nice if the rail sensor and occupant detection sensor were both simple open/closed sensors, where open would translate to "all the way back" and "occupant detected."
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The rail sensor is a piece of cake. Just unbolt it from the old seat and plug it in under the new seat. The occupant detection system is somewhat more involved, but certainly doable, as TRooper proved.

I tested the Occupant Detection module with a multimeter and it's definitely more than just open or closed. As mentioned above, it is actually a pressure bladder with a 3-wire transducer that feeds its signal to a 'controller box' type thing. You have to transplant the entire assembly into the new seat. Follow TRooper's thread for details.
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and here's a step-by-step of placing the occupant detection system into a Corbeau CR-1 passenger side aftermarket seat:


Here's the pressure bladder, removed from the stock seat. It's three layers - a felt pad, the bladder itself, and then a protective plastic sheet on top:


remove the rails from the new seat (if they were already installed):


this is the bladder, the seatbelt sensor, and the control module. The bladder and seatbelt sensors plug into the module:


peel back the upholstry to gain access to the bottom. On the Corbeau seats, it's a velcro flap:


This is the underside of the seat exposed. You will need to get the bladder between the pad and the springs:


On the Corbeau CR-1, you can lift up the seat-cushion a little bit and gain access to where you need to get the bladder:


Here, I am sliding the bladder into its new home from the gap in the seat-cushion. It's a tight fit so work carefully. You don't want to rip the nipple off the bladder:
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Continue working the bladder into place from below to help guide it. Don't forget to gently pull the connector through:


Once into place, use zip-ties and the pre-existing slots in the bladder to secure it into place:


There is also room to mount the module to the underside of the springs using zipties:


Notice the springs are recessed up into the bottom so the module doesn't hang down much:


connect whatever sensors you can and dress the cables carefully with zip-ties:


close the flap over the module with the two sensors sticking out towards the seatbelt side:


replace the rails, routing the seatbelt sensor and plugging it in such that it won't hang on anything when you slide the seat back and forth:


Now you can reinstall the seat back into the car. You'll need to substitute a 3-ohm resistor for the airbag connector and then just plug the remaining connector from the module into the matching one in the car. Once reinstalled, you can test the operation by starting the car and leaning over onto the passenger seat and putting your weight on the cushion - watch the light in the clock assembly to ensure operation. It should go to ON once you have put some pressure on the cushion (and bladder).
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