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Old 11-12-2003, 04:49 PM   #1
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Default WRC Hyundai engine is based on what model?

I was watching the GB rally Sunday with a friend who has been a die hard NASCRAP fan for years. He's starting to come along to say the least. He said holy shat at least 10 times during the race in regards to how good the drivers were. Well he started asking me if my car will be as fast as the WRC Impreza after my sawp was done. I told him not nearly as fast but pretty quick. Then i explained why the motor(EJ20) was only available in Japan until the WRX came here.

Long story made short- his wife drives a Hyundia Accent and he was going to sell it soon and now he wants to keep it to do a swap. What model is the 2.0l turbo in the WRC Accent based on? Do the Accents get a 2.0t in Japan? I checked on Hyundai/Australia and no models are turbo. I thought it would be pretty cool to do a JDM swap in an Accent.
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Old 11-12-2003, 04:55 PM   #2
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This may be old hat, but at one time the Accent was using a version of the Lancer Evo motor. The WRC cars are pretty much custom race cars. I am pretty sure they dont offer an AWD accent either.

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Old 11-12-2003, 05:45 PM   #3
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Hyundai is a Korean car company so there really is no JDM version and no there is no turbo motor. WRC rules allow them to add a turbo and the 4wd
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Old 11-12-2003, 10:43 PM   #4
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Hyundai offers a 2.0 Liter VVT turbo four cylinder in Europe in the Cupoe (Tiburon). Rumored to be coming over here. It is based on the 2.0 Liter Mitsu engine loosely. Also found in the Elantra.

Also rumored, to be a retail piece to go along with their re entry into wrc in 2005-2006. a 'rally replica'. 2.0 Liter turbo four and AWD in an accent, 6 speed, 220 HP (keep in mind sub 2500 pounds), recaro seats, etc... for under $20K.... would be nice to see

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Old 11-12-2003, 11:05 PM   #5
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Hmm, I worked with the Hyundai USA Rally team and I was always told that no turbo existed but it was a thought for future Tiburons

Not saying your wrong but do you have any evidence? I am pretty sure They don't get a turbo in England
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Old 11-13-2003, 07:35 AM   #6
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The US engines are based on the 2.0ltr found in the base line Tiburon and the Elantra they are sent to an engine builder in England who replaces the pistons and rods and builds a custom turbo header (and Im sure a lot of other stuff).
I believe Hyundai developed this "Beta turbo engine" in US rally cars before the WRC effort to work out the bugs. The first rally Tiburons had a Mitsubishi 4g63.
They ran a Hyundai engine in Noels cars first and then the new Tiburons were both built with Beta engines.
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Old 11-13-2003, 09:13 AM   #7
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A bad one.
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Old 11-13-2003, 09:51 AM   #8
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Thanks all. I misinterpeted the WRC rules then I thought the production the WRC cars were based had to be 2.0l and turbo. I guess he'll have to get the motor from the wrecked yellow Evo down the street.

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Old 11-13-2003, 10:59 AM   #9
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I wonder if the V6 from the USDM Tiburon GT would fit!?

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Old 11-13-2003, 12:14 PM   #10
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The US engines are based on the 2.0ltr found in the base line Tiburon and the Elantra they are sent to an engine builder in England who replaces the pistons and rods and builds a custom turbo header (and Im sure a lot of other stuff).
I believe Hyundai developed this "Beta turbo engine" in US rally cars before the WRC effort to work out the bugs. The first rally Tiburons had a Mitsubishi 4g63.
They ran a Hyundai engine in Noels cars first and then the new Tiburons were both built with Beta engines.

Just got off the horn with my friend at Hyundai. The beta motors for the US Rally team were built in Korea and tweaked (mostly in terms of tuning) in New Zealand. This effort was completely independent from what the WRC team was doing and had no effect on the WRC cars.
As for a Turbo street car, they had never heard of it, but the European division of the company is completely separate and it is quite possible it exists
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Old 11-13-2003, 12:40 PM   #11
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I stand corrected.
I thought I remembered an England tuner coming up during one of my visits to Libra
As far as the development side Im sure Hyundai engineers learned a lot from the engines that were sent back to them from the US team. I really find it hard to believe that the knowledge went nowhere.
There was some talk about the US cars being test beds for a couple of years before the WRC effort.
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Old 11-13-2003, 01:21 PM   #12
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You might have been thinking of Dom Buckley from Scotland he built one of the cars while the other one was built by Libra Racing
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Old 11-14-2003, 08:14 PM   #13
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i am not aware of any turbo hyundai for sale in the UK. But then again, why would i look?
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:15 AM   #14
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I stumbled across this thread while searching a part for my turboed Accent, and thought I would clear up a couple of things.

The 93-95 Hyundai Scoupe came with a T15 turbo as an option for the 1.5l SOHC engine(in the uk also). Hyundai has never made as AWD car.

The T15 was good but toped out a little soon, and people swaped out the T15 for a T25 off of a Nissan that was a direct fit, and everyone was happy. The 95-97 Accents with the T25s ran in the 13s in the quarter with little tweaking.

No other car, that they made, was turboed.

I must also mention that alot of people with Accents also do a 2.0L beta swap from a Tiburon or an Elantra, and have decent results. I hope this was helpful.
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:45 PM   #15
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The first rally Tiburons had a Mitsubishi 4g63.
When LIBRA first started running Hyundai's in 1995 (the Elantra) they were using the Mitsu engine and drive-train, and for a while they came complete with the valve covers that (still) said "MITSUBISHI"

You couldn't quite get away with that now

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Old 12-04-2005, 05:33 PM   #16
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I stumbled across this thread while searching a part for my turboed Accent, and thought I would clear up a couple of things.

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You do realize this is a Subaru forum (not the best place to find Hyundai parts) and this thread is two years old, right?
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:33 PM   #17
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You do realize this is a Subaru forum (not the best place to find Hyundai parts) and this thread is two years old, right?
He probably ran accross the thread after doing a search on google or something.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:40 PM   #18
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I stumbled across this thread while searching a part for my turboed Accent, and thought I would clear up a couple of things.

The 93-95 Hyundai Scoupe came with a T15 turbo as an option for the 1.5l SOHC engine(in the uk also). Hyundai has never made as AWD car.

The T15 was good but toped out a little soon, and people swaped out the T15 for a T25 off of a Nissan that was a direct fit, and everyone was happy. The 95-97 Accents with the T25s ran in the 13s in the quarter with little tweaking.

No other car, that they made, was turboed.

I must also mention that alot of people with Accents also do a 2.0L beta swap from a Tiburon or an Elantra, and have decent results. I hope this was helpful.
Thanks for the info. I had been worrying about this for the past 2 years!
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:55 PM   #19
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Wow. Sorry for for the late response. I didn't notice the year of the post, and yes, I googled it. I wanted to help out another Accent owner enjoy his/her car.

No, I didn't realize this was a Subur forum, but now that I know, I look forward to reading it more.
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