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Old 12-10-2005, 04:14 PM   #1
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Hey guys, changing my oil on my 05 WRX. This is my first time changing it on the car, but I changed my oil all the time on my 92 Accord. Here's my issue: After filling 'er up with the oil, I check the stick and its bone dry?!?! I put in 4.2 qts which the manual says. I have it off the ramps as well. I waited about an hr to check again, but still dry. I started the car for a few to see if the oil light comes on but it doesn't. Any ideas?? There are no puddles underneath the car or anything else. I think I'm losing it.
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Old 12-10-2005, 04:29 PM   #2
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That is very strange. Even when my STi is low on oil it never is bone dry.
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Old 12-10-2005, 04:30 PM   #3
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Put in the full 5 quarts
It should read full, maybe even a hair over, but that wouldn't cause you any problems. And do your self a favor and puck up a dozen crush-washers at the dealer. Don't cheap out and try to reuse it. Spending the $1 to insure that there aren't any leaks or putting too much torque on the plug to compensate is money well spent in my book.

Also, my motor broke in very nicely running Royal Purple 5w30 from the start. The general consensus is if you start running synthetic, you should stick with it. You motor will wear differently on diffferent oils and weights.
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Old 12-10-2005, 04:38 PM   #4
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Or get a fumoto valve instead of a crush washer for every oil change. I'm glad I got one. www.fumotovalve.com
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Old 12-10-2005, 04:40 PM   #5
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Here's my issue: After filling 'er up with the oil, I check the stick and its bone dry?!?! I put in 4.2 qts which the manual says.
You looked at the wrong model! 4.2 is the non-turbo, you need 4.8 quarts
I dump 5 quarts in also, .2 aint gonna hurt anything
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Old 12-10-2005, 05:05 PM   #6
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Hey guys, changing my oil on my 05 WRX. This is my first time changing it on the car, but I changed my oil all the time on my 92 Accord. Here's my issue: After filling 'er up with the oil, I check the stick and its bone dry?!?! I put in 4.2 qts which the manual says. I have it off the ramps as well. I waited about an hr to check again, but still dry. I started the car for a few to see if the oil light comes on but it doesn't. Any ideas?? There are no puddles underneath the car or anything else. I think I'm losing it.
4.2? i always put like 4.7......i always put 4 and a little more than start the car for a sec, than cut it, and than check the dip and fill until it reads, i do it in 3 minute intervals so i know the stick is reading right.....
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Old 12-10-2005, 05:09 PM   #7
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Or get a fumoto valve instead of a crush washer for every oil change. I'm glad I got one. www.fumotovalve.com
wow, that makes things look a hella lot easier, but ill just stick to the old drain plug, but do you really need a crush washer? wouldnt antiseize on the threads work the same way?
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Old 12-10-2005, 05:12 PM   #8
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thanks for all the replies. i just went out and added another quart and now its full. i'm going to look into the fumoto valve too. Thanks again guys!!!
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Old 12-10-2005, 06:13 PM   #9
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thanks for all the replies. i just went out and added another quart and now its full. i'm going to look into the fumoto valve too. Thanks again guys!!!
Another vote for the Fumoto. Makes oil changes a breeze!
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Old 12-10-2005, 06:36 PM   #10
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fumoto's would be cool if the were not $30. I think they are awesome idea / design but cannot get my self to fess up for the $30 when my wrench and a 17mm socket which I already own, paid for themselves many moons ago.

maybe i'm just a cheap ass, but time, mobile 1 and filter do add to relatively large $$ already.
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Old 12-10-2005, 06:48 PM   #11
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wow, that makes things look a hella lot easier, but ill just stick to the old drain plug, but do you really need a crush washer? wouldnt antiseize on the threads work the same way?

Antisieze is not a sealant, it's a lubricant. You may get lucky by not changing the washer, but why take a chance. I didn't change the crush washer on my first oil change and now I have a stain on my carport from it. Put up with it for a couple of weeks, wasn't much of a leak, then I ordered a fumoto valve and changed my oil again. Haven't looked back since. Well worth the $30 IMHO. No more leaks and alot easier to change the oil, and less tools to drag out also. I also don't need to worry about buying a crush washer when I buy the filter and oil.
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:03 PM   #12
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+1 for Fumoto. That thing is the isht! Changing the oil used to be such a messy job. Now just flick a switch and the oil goes right into the drain pan. Haven't gotten a drop of oil on me since I installed it.
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:10 AM   #13
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second on the fumoto valve. Have had it for around 15k miles and it's probably the best bang-for-the buck mod that I have done. Makes changing my oil actually enjoyable!
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:38 AM   #14
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The fumoto valve is the BEST 30 bucks I have spent on my car, once I changed my oil with it on for the first time i ordered 3 more for the other cars that live in my driveway.
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:39 AM   #15
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Antisieze is not a sealant, it's a lubricant. You may get lucky by not changing the washer, but why take a chance. I didn't change the crush washer on my first oil change and now I have a stain on my carport from it. Put up with it for a couple of weeks, wasn't much of a leak, then I ordered a fumoto valve and changed my oil again. Haven't looked back since. Well worth the $30 IMHO. No more leaks and alot easier to change the oil, and less tools to drag out also. I also don't need to worry about buying a crush washer when I buy the filter and oil.
I have like 700 of them. the guy I bought my car off of handed me a box. I opened it and it was full of those washers. I did this---> Then I picked up all the washers becuase dropped the box when I turned into a dancing banana.
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Old 12-11-2005, 01:10 AM   #16
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With this fumoto valve or what ever, does it protrude from the pan, and risk it being broken by road kill, deep snow or what have you? I just bought a 2005 impreza brand new and have yet to get 3,000 for an oil change.

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Old 12-11-2005, 01:27 AM   #17
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I have never, not once put anything less than 5 qts of oil in my WRX or STI
The little bit of overfill wont hurt anything. Maybe cost me a couple hp loss to windage, but its not going to hurt anything

+1 for me being lazy
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Old 12-11-2005, 01:32 AM   #18
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fumoto's would be cool if the were not $30. I think they are awesome idea / design but cannot get my self to fess up for the $30 when my wrench and a 17mm socket which I already own, paid for themselves many moons ago.

maybe i'm just a cheap ass, but time, mobile 1 and filter do add to relatively large $$ already.
It's very worth it. Twisting a lever to get the oil flowing out is a LOT better than having to use a wrench and a socket fighting to get the plug out, and then plugging it back in. Your saving yourself crush washers and your oil pan threads

Plus oil flows down in a nice, thin stream.
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:07 AM   #19
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With this fumoto valve or what ever, does it protrude from the pan, and risk it being broken by road kill, deep snow or what have you? I just bought a 2005 impreza brand new and have yet to get 3,000 for an oil change.

Mike
http://www.fumotovalve.com/

It's a pretty popular item around here. I don't use it, but it makes oil changes a heck of a lot easier and less messy.

I myself haven't had a problem with oil changes, so far it all comes down in a nice even stream, haven't had it splash all over the place yet. and since I've got several crush washers sitting in my garage, might as well use em all up before I consider getting the valve. But it does stick up into the oil pan a little bit, so you won't get 100% of the oil out, but it doesn't seem to be a problem.
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:29 AM   #20
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the fumotovalve looks like a good idea, but imagine if that lever broke or got faulty. there goes your engine once all that oil leaks out!!
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The lever is designed so that it can't be randomly opened. When closed, it sits in a notch. To open it, you must push down and turn the lever. Doing one or the other will not open the valve.
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Old 12-11-2005, 10:16 AM   #22
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Plus if you leave your belly panel on, nothing will touch the valve. You would only have to worry about anything hitting it if you leave the panel off. I know some people run without the panel, but mine is still on the car. Pain to have to remove it, but the engineers put it there for a reason.
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:11 PM   #23
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Plus if you leave your belly panel on, nothing will touch the valve. You would only have to worry about anything hitting it if you leave the panel off. I know some people run without the panel, but mine is still on the car. Pain to have to remove it, but the engineers put it there for a reason.
That's not entirely true -- there's a cutout where the drain plug is (at least on my '05 WRX). The undertray still should (touch wood) effectively block most debris from hitting the Fumoto.

If you ever actually hold one in your hand, you'll understand why all these worries of mechanical failure seem silly to those in the know. They're very sturdily made, and have a very clever valve design that would be pretty hard to foul.
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:58 PM   #24
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If you're worried about the valve coming accidentally open, then safety wire the valve lever (read about a guy running over a cone and flicking the valve open)
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