Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Sunday July 13, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC General > Motorsports

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-11-2005, 12:13 PM   #1
Lachlan
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 19470
Join Date: May 2002
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: albuquerque, NM
Vehicle:
1981 Brat GL
Blue

Default rally x and pillowballs

I know for the gravel it is suggested that you keep your suspension "soft;" and that makes me think soft springs and small swaybars. But what about pillowball bushings on drop links, lateral links, trailing links, etc? Are those too "hard" for gravel?
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Lachlan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2005, 12:57 PM   #2
greg donovan
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 60743
Join Date: Apr 2004
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Fargo, ND
Vehicle:
'95 Impreza L
dirty and on jack stands

Default

nope they arent too hard but they will wear out pretty fast and need constant maintenance to make sure they dont break.

the soft that people refer to is mainly in the valving of the shocks and the springs.

that being said all that stuff is pretty un needed in rally x.
greg donovan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2005, 09:11 PM   #3
kwh29
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 22100
Join Date: Jul 2002
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Durham, NC
Default

You want independent wheel movement and controlled travel in rallycross -- it's fine to use pillowball mounts and the like but just don't even try to run crazy large swaybars (especially rear) or autox spring rates. Those things work great for auto-x but SUCK for rallyx.

I just bought Pleiades' RS and ran a rallyx with it last weekend. The first three runs I ran with the suspension as-is and had to tiptoe around like I was driving a RWD BMW; the oversteer caused by the big rear swaybar was fun but VERY slow. For the afternoon runs I completely disconnected the rear bar and the car was immediately 4-5 seconds faster and totally controllable with long sections of the course drivable at WOT.

--Kevin H.
kwh29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2005, 09:06 AM   #4
akuhner
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 462
Join Date: Oct 1999
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Westport, CT
Vehicle:
2005 Saab 92x Aero
No more rally car...

Default

I have the Tien pillowball mounts and they are fine at rally-x. I did have one sieze up this spring, but it happened in the shop after sitting around for a few months. All it needed was some TLC...
akuhner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2005, 03:02 AM   #5
silver04rs
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 38825
Join Date: Jun 2003
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Temecula, CA
Default

I like a soft set up for rally-X with a big rear sway bar. It makes it easy to pitch the car into corners at low speed.
silver04rs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2005, 08:59 PM   #6
kwh29
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 22100
Join Date: Jul 2002
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Durham, NC
Default

Hey, whatever works for you! Our surfaces are VERY soft and low grip so I have no problem initiating turns. On surfaces like ours the BRB setup felt fun and all but was really slow. I'd bet that on higher grip surfaces something more like an auto-x swaybar setup could work well.

--Kevin H.
kwh29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WRX / STI Full coilovers w/ CUSCO camber plates and pillowball mounts ERICS02WRX NWIC Private Classifieds 8 10-03-2007 09:27 PM
rally school and cheap(er) rally car.... spiralsmurf Southern California Impreza Club Forum -- SCIC 13 07-04-2002 06:23 PM
Project 666 Will be a rally car, it will dominate some american rally circuit, and jmott Texas Impreza Club Forum -- TXIC 13 04-01-2002 02:30 PM
I need rally wheels and rally tires! Where can I find em'?!?!?! ScoutWRX Brakes, Steering & Suspension 6 07-03-2001 10:15 AM
New Rally school and Rally-X dates. SFsube Bay Area Impreza Club Forum -- BAIC 8 08-15-2000 01:34 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:05 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.