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Old 12-12-2005, 02:35 PM   #1
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Unhappy Car chase ends in front of my apt. building with bad results.

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_3301228

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Boy dies after pursuit, car crash
By Molly R. Okeon Staff Writer



PASADENA - A 3-year-old boy died late Sunday of injuries suffered when the car he was riding in was struck by a stolen vehicle being chased by Arcadia police earlier in the day.
The chase began after someone reported a suspicious vehicle parked in the 1100 block of Singing Wood Drive at 9:09 a.m. Sunday, according to an Arcadia Police Department press release.

After checking the vehicle's license plate number, police discovered it was stolen. Officers located the vehicle in the area and attempted to make a traffic stop, the report said. However, the vehicle failed to yield to officers and a pursuit ensued.

The vehicle continued into Pasadena, where it collided with another vehicle at the intersection of Del Mar Boulevard and Altadena Drive a short time later, according to the report.

The suspect was identified by police as Sara Bravo, 26, of La Puente. She was taken into custody at the scene and transported to Huntington Hospital for treatment of injuries she suffered in the collision.

The report stated that once she is released from the hospital, she will be booked on suspicion of grand theft auto and felony evading causing injury. As of Sunday evening, she was still


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at the hospital being treated for her injuries, said Arcadia police Lt. Ken Harper. Harper said Bravo will also be charged with murder because the child died as a result of injuries he sustained in the collision.

Pasadena fire spokeswoman Lisa Derderian said a male Pasadena Water & Power employee and his 3-year-old son were in the vehicle that was hit.

Both were transported to Huntington Hospital for treatment. Derderian said the boy, who was in a child seat at the time of the accident, was in "grave condition" when he was transported to the hospital. At 5:35 p.m. Sunday, Harper said the child was on life support. Harper said the child was taken off life support and pronounced dead at 7:50 p.m.

The collision is being investigated by the Pasadena Police Department.
I was about to shower when my wife throws open the door to say a police chase had ended with a crash in front of our place.

So I slowly get dressed to go see what is going on, and while doing so hear a cop yell "get on the ground or we are going to shoot you in the head!!!" to the driver of the car.

I swear, the sound of that threat made my blood go cold.

Anyways, it turned out to be a female that was attempting to evade police!

Very sad incident.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:37 PM   #2
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"or we are going to shoot you in the head"??

dang...that's some ruthless stuff you people in California do...
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:39 PM   #3
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Should have just shot her in the head anyways.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:40 PM   #4
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"or we are going to shoot you in the head"??

dang...that's some ruthless stuff you people in California do...
When you kill an innocent 3 year old kid, I would say that's a pretty fair thing to say to the person.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:42 PM   #5
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Maybe if they actually did shoot a couple in the head, the ******** wouldn't run anymore.



Poor kid, that sucks.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:42 PM   #6
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When you kill an innocent 3 year old kid, I would say that's a pretty fair thing to say to the person.
12345...and remember, like anyone, cops that are jacked on adrenaline tent to talk more smack then they'll do. It's all an intimidation thing. Like al you thought he was actually going to shoot, so did the perp, and that's the desired effect.

This is the main reason most PDs don't chase much anymore....so sad.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:43 PM   #7
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:43 PM   #8
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Why do people run from the cops... I just don't get it... I fell horribly for the poor child and it's father... That is horrible for them. Don't people realize that you can't outrun a radio? The driver deserves to burn in hell, or better yet be used as a crash test dummy.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:44 PM   #9
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And still, they continue to chase people through residential areas.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:45 PM   #10
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Wow that's terrible. I feel bad for the family, and I hope that that stupid bitch that ran get's everything coming to her and then some.

I vote manditory shot in the head for people who run and kill like that.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:45 PM   #11
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This is the main reason most PDs don't chase much anymore....so sad.
I really think this could have been handled with an undercover unit following the suspect till she got out of the car...

These are busy residential streets that the chase took place on.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:45 PM   #12
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I hope the bitch rots for a looooooong time.

I'd like to see more laws that allow for all assets to be seized, auctioned, and payment given to the victims/victims' families in cases like this.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:47 PM   #13
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I really think this could have been handled with an undercover unit following the suspect till she got out of the car...

These are busy residential streets that the chase took place on.
We just let stolen cars go when they run from us. Here you're lucky to get probation after the perp gets convicted anyway. We call it "Chasing Probation." Just not worth it at all.

Often they'll see a car following them and still try to outrun it, even if it's a UC car. One of the best solutions is to back off once the chopper gets overhead and let the chopper call the locations, just follow out of sight and take the dumbass down when he gets out.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:47 PM   #14
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I wouldn't have bothered to warn her, just capped her in the back of the head. Folks like that dont deserve to live off my tax dollars for the rest of their life. (She wont since she's in cali, but folks like that are in every state).

Just go on and spend 35 cents for the bullet to waste her arse and save me the 35,000 in tax money it will take PER YEAR to keep her fed and clothes. Ya know what, even if the cop buys his own ammo, i'll buy him a whole freaking box of Speer Gold Dot or whatever brand he chooses. Its just cheaper in the long run.


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Old 12-12-2005, 02:48 PM   #15
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How often on a police chase does the perp eventually just pull over and give up? What's the point of the police chasing them when the end result is an accident of some type. :/
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How often on a police chase does the perp eventually just pull over and give up? What's the point of the police chasing them when the end result is an accident of some type. :/
What we do is follow the car (w/o lights sirens) and call it in. As soon as we have enough units to try to box the car in we hit the lights and give it a shot. If they run, we let them go. If they stop, we cuff 'em and stuff 'em. That's how we roll. We will only chase if it's for the 7 deadly sins (rape, armed robbery, murder, etc....the VIOLENT stuff)

beethoven, there is no point in chasing if an innocent live is taken.
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When you kill an innocent 3 year old kid, I would say that's a pretty fair thing to say to the person.
I understand them saying "lay down on the ground or we'll shoot you"...but to actually describe where they are going to shoot you is semi-comical-ruthless to me.

"Stop or I'll shoot you in the left ventricle!" "Yeah that's right Mofo...I'm calling my shots...I've got ridiculous aim and an itchy trigger finger...you want to test me??"
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I do not blame the police. I think they are honorable and courageous individuals who risk their lives to protect the people, some of whom are not worth protecting at times....
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What we do is follow the car (w/o lights sirens) and call it in. As soon as we have enough units to try to box the car in we hit the lights and give it a shot. If they run, we let them go. If they stop, we cuff 'em and stuff 'em. That's how we roll. We will only chase if it's for the 7 deadly sins (rape, armed robbery, murder, etc....the VIOLENT stuff)

beethoven, there is no point in chasing if an innocent live is taken.
Now that makes some sense. Is that a fairly standard policy for police agencies now?
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12345...and remember, like anyone, cops that are jacked on adrenaline tent to talk more smack then they'll do. It's all an intimidation thing. Like al you thought he was actually going to shoot, so did the perp, and that's the desired effect.

This is the main reason most PDs don't chase much anymore....so sad.
plus if they had been to any training they would not have shot at the head
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I understand them saying "lay down on the ground or we'll shoot you"...but to actually describe where they are going to shoot you is semi-comical-ruthless to me.

"Stop or I'll shoot you in the left ventricle!" "Yeah that's right Mofo...I'm calling my shots...I've got ridiculous aim and an itchy trigger finger...you want to test me??"
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:56 PM   #22
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Now that makes some sense. Is that a fairly standard policy for police agencies now?
It's becoming more and more the standard. There are still a lot of agencies though that will chase your wheels off. Georgia State Police will just flat out wreck you and end the pursuit. A lot of the more rural departments will still chase just to get their Roscoe P Coltrain fixes.
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plus if they had been to any training they would not have shot at the head
Not exactly true. We used to train for body armour drills, two to the chest, one to the head.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:58 PM   #24
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Wait Del Mar and Altadena? That's a block and a half from my mom's house!
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Not exactly true. We used to train for body armour drills, two to the chest, one to the head.
Apparently DY has not been to PP. Don't you know smkn1wrx knows everything!?
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