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View Poll Results: What peak hp will this setup get on 104?
350 3 5.56%
360 1 1.85%
370 4 7.41%
380 3 5.56%
390 8 14.81%
400 11 20.37%
410 5 9.26%
411+ 19 35.19%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-17-2005, 05:52 AM   #1
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Default Axis hybrid wagon slurpin' GT30R air...

PDXTuning.com took my 301 whp í05 wagon away from me... but theyíll be giving me back a 2.5L hybrid for road racing / the street.


[EDIT: mods have changed and I've started a new thread:

CONTEST: Free PdxTuning! Free Torco! Guess dyno#s: 2.5L, GT30R.82, DPR2 cams

This thread's been pre-empted.]




Already on board:

- TXS FMIC, BOV & UTEC w/ map selector
- Aquamist 2d WI with accumulator and DDS3
- AVC-R ebs
- Walbro 342
- Modded stock injectors
- NGK #7 Iridiums
- Perrin crank pulley
- GReddy header and EVO2 muffler
- Rims, suspension, body and interior mods
...plus other stuff thatís coming off (bye bye 18g... you were sweet!)


Whatís getting put on:

- Axis Stage 2 2.5L block with forged pistons, Cometic head gaskets and ARP head studs
- DPR Stage 1 camshafts, blueprinted conical springs, and titanium retainers
- DPR cylinder-head work incl. CNC port & polish, hand-lapped & vacuum-tested valve seats, and relash
- Perrin Turn-Mount GT-30R (.63 a/r) kit with UP, DP, and Big MAF inlet
- Tial external WG
- Perrin fuel rails
- Chromexed intake manifold by Performance Coating
- Heat-wrapped header and pipes
- TGV delete
- Complete í05 STi 6-spd drivetrain (4K miles) w/ f+b Brembos / lines, Neetronics DCCD & Kartboy bushings
- Tein Flex coilovers with EDFC
- Perrin PSRS cntl-arm stiffener
- EcuTek base map for injector scaling, codes and base timing
- Dynotuning on PDXís new (to them) Mustang w/ UTEC maps for pump, Torco, & race.

Anyone whoís worked with the guys at PDXT knows what a great experience it is to mod your car with them. They all helped design this build, especially Tim, and now that the carís in Dustinís hands I couldnít be more confident that heís birthing the beast Iím wanting. I canít wait Ďtil the blockís broken in and Mick and the guys can start tuning on it. They might just build me a track car thatíll let me keep their own Subies in sight for most of a lap!

While doing the research to find the perfect fresh billet cams I was lucky enough to find Dan Paramore of DPR racing. He has an international rep for being a top cylinder-head guy... heís sponsored numerous Subarus for track, drag strip and rally, and was part of a team that took a Civic (!) over the 200 mph mark in 2003.

Dan knows our cars really well and has designed and tested high-performance camshafts for the WRX / STi for racing and for the street. And if you want your heads ported and polished you canít go wrong handing Ďem over to Dan. Heís got the big operation, but heís an artisan who grew up in the business and does the P&P himself.

More on the choice of cams later. These DPRís have just the ramp I was looking for.

While I was choosing a turbo, I kept thinking about how much I want torque, comin on early with a smooth band and a big fat area under the curve. Iím willing to hand over a little top-end power to get this. Not lookin for ľ mile times... wantin good power comin out of the turns.

Weíll see what this new ride does on the dyno. Any hp/tq guesses on pump? ...on race? Wouldnít mind seein 1.6 bar on Torco and WI, my daily brew. Not sure, maybe I'll be shoppin for a new clutch come spring and track days!

Expect some build pics soon. Hereíre some Ďbefores.í Thatís the water injection, nozzling into the intake charge there right before the throttle body, EDIT: and the DDS3 where the center AC fan speed dial used to be on the dash. (That AC dial is now in the front cup holder.)
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:00 AM   #2
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nice, cant wait to see pics, your going to love it. My cars on a similar vacation.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:39 PM   #3
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I don't think they'll know what hit 'em!
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:55 PM   #4
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So far a third of the voters are saying 411+ whp on race. I can't add options to the poll at this point... so if you're guessin 420, 430, 4??, maybe you could post your quess...? Thanks.
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:07 PM   #5
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Im at 390 on 91 no WI my advantage to you is Hydra.
My vote over 411 I figure in the 430 range.
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:12 PM   #6
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Thanks. I've met and talked a bit with Phil and have two buddies with STi hydras. I guess you're safer pushing the limits with the more minute control it gives you.
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:15 PM   #7
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Just running a 2.5 hybrid as well.
Phil is the man when it comes to the Hydra and its abilities. He tuned my car.
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Old 12-18-2005, 06:14 PM   #8
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Just for a closer comparo... what's your turbo/WG/IC? Stock cams and heads, or did you get into bigger camshafts and a P&P?
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Old 12-18-2005, 10:16 PM   #9
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USDM Sti 2.5 short block
WRX 2.0 Heads (polished & ported)
Sti valvetrain
Sti cams
Vibrant equal length header (Swain coated White Lightning)
WBR Performance Rotated GT30 turbo kit
Garrett GT30r .82 ar. (Swain coated White Lightning hot side)
Tial 40mm wastegate (plumbed back into down pipe)
Tial 50mm BOV
Custom Down Pipe (Swain coated White Lightning)
Custom Up-Pipe (Swain coated White Lighting)
WBR Performance WBR525 FMIC powdercoated black
APS Fuel rails
TGV Delete
Walbro Fuel pump
PE800 injectors
APS 3.0 turbo back exhaust
TurboSmart Eboost2 Electronic Boost controller (not shown in these photos)

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Old 12-19-2005, 07:04 PM   #10
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Thanks. I think it'll be a useful comparison. One of my maps will be no-WI so we can use that. There are some other differences, like the headers and the fact that I'll be on a Mustang vs. your DynoJet numbers, but the shapes of the curves might tell us something about your STi cams & .82 a/r versus my DPR Stage 1s & .63 a/r.

Your thread rocks, dude. Folks should check out his sleeper-sick superior-interior bugeye-wicked powerwagon!
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:24 PM   #11
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sleeper-sick superior-interior bugeye-wicked powerwagon!

Thanks as soon as Harmanmotive is back from vacation (Jan 2) I'll see if I can get a uncorrected plot for you.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:53 PM   #12
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Considering I've made 480ish WHP on a WRX with 2.5 liter block, ported heads by DPR and stock cams, I'd say 450+ is easily achievable.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:56 PM   #13
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Considering I've made 480ish WHP on a WRX with 2.5 liter block, ported heads by DPR and stock cams, I'd say 450+ is easily achievable.
Dear god,

What octane was that on?
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:41 AM   #14
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Quote:
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...Dynotuning on PDXís new (to them) Mustang...
So PDX is no longer using the Matrix Dyno? They bought their own, or what?

Also, I thought they were done with the AVC-R - no?
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Old 12-20-2005, 02:34 AM   #15
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So PDX is no longer using the Matrix Dyno?...
Yes. I mean no. They are using that dyno.

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...They bought their own, or what?...
Yes.



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...I thought they were done with the AVC-R - no?
My understanding is that they like the AVC-R fine and will tune with it and I believe they'll still sell it. It's just that they like the new DTEC more. (I got my AVC-R from them last summer.)
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Old 12-20-2005, 02:50 PM   #16
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Yes. I mean no. They are using that dyno.
I just got off the phone with PDXTuning. The deal is Matrix sold their mustang and they are looking for another one to use. They still have access to other dynos, but they are not mustangs which is what they prefer to use.
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:02 AM   #17
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Yeah, I wasn't sure if that was public knowledge. I bet they'll get one soon... maybe something even better!
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:50 PM   #18
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It's no big deal, just a preference since all their previous numbers were based on the same dyno. Other than that, a dyno is just a tuning tool.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:07 PM   #19
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What octane was that on?

That's funny!
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:47 PM   #20
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^ im interested in knowing too since I have stock wrx cams. what turbo and fuel God?
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:19 PM   #21
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Here you go. Bottom chart is 93 octane 20 PSI, top one is 100 octane at 25 PSI.
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