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Old 12-21-2005, 03:42 AM   #1
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Default Anyone else excited about Dakar ?

Robby has his site up now at http://www.teamdakarusa.com/ . I hate Hummers and Nascar but, the idea of the beating the French always makes me happy. Take off that plastic shell and that is one high tech looking piece of kit. Some really nice shots there of the guts of the thing. This one shows they spent some money.
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:28 PM   #2
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How does Nascar factor into the Dakar and a US team running hummers? Robby was an off-road racer and indy car driver well before he ever ran stock cars. I am excited to see the Dakar again this year and I am glad to finally see more American involvement with each passing year.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:59 PM   #3
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I've always liked the dakar rally, as per the topic question:

Is there a Subaru in it this year? Oh.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:06 PM   #4
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is Speed going to air all of it again?

Yes, I'm looking forward to it.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:07 PM   #5
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No, no Subaru in it.

Dakar is always fun. I just wish some channel besides OLN was covering it for US audiences.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:07 PM   #6
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I think that H3 looks pretty tough, we'll see if Robby can keep the wheels on it.

I hope he finishes, doesn't die, and places well enough to doit again next year.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:43 PM   #7
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I just wish some channel besides OLN was covering it for US audiences.
Why? I thought they did a good job with the coverage of it last year. More coverage of it would be nice, but I'd say that about most non US motorsports.

And yes, I am excited.

Also, its interesting that Robby is running Toyos.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:50 PM   #8
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Why? I thought they did a good job with the coverage of it last year. More coverage of it would be nice, but I'd say that about most non US motorsports.

And yes, I am excited.
are you serious?? Last year's coverage was profiling american team in the dakar rally, not covering the event! Bring back Toby Moody and the crew!!!
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:04 PM   #9
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are you serious?? Last year's coverage was profiling american team in the dakar rally, not covering the event! Bring back Toby Moody and the crew!!!
Yes they had a lot of coverage on all the americans competing (big surprise there considering that it was a broadcast made for the US) but they covered the other teams too.
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:07 PM   #10
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I have two events per year I look forward to and watch every teleivised minute. The Tour de France and the Dakar rally raid. It's good Robby is on a vehicle/truck he is accustomed to driving. I hope he does well. The bikes have a pretty good effort on the Red-Bull KTM's. They are shooting for a podium.

fwiw here's a theard in OT started a few days ago. Some good pics...
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ighlight=dakar


linky is to OLN's daily Dakar coverage.
http://www.olntv.com/nw/article/view...=true&catID=76
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:19 PM   #11
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Lowrance GPS is ok, but a Terratrip? Ewwwwwww! And in Dakar, you really should have two rally computers... I hope they do well, though!

I'd like to run Dakar after I retire from proper racing!
- Christian
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:25 PM   #12
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Why? I thought they did a good job with the coverage of it last year. More coverage of it would be nice, but I'd say that about most non US motorsports.

And yes, I am excited.

Also, its interesting that Robby is running Toyos.
lol, two problems with OLN.

One, I don't get OLN w/o paying for Digital Tier 2 or something like that Not worth it when the only thing on *any* of those channels worth watching is Dakar and Rally America.

Two, I was pretty underwhelmed when I did see it. Too much of a biopic on the American teams (which isn't a bad thing in moderation) and not enough actual racing. It was good, but it didn't do it for me like the past Speedvision and Speed Channel coverage did.
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Old 12-22-2005, 08:23 AM   #13
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yes, Sainz will be there...
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Old 12-22-2005, 02:24 PM   #14
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are you serious?? Last year's coverage was profiling american team in the dakar rally, not covering the event!
Agreed 1000%. The years I had Speed channel I watched all the Dakar coverage - tasteful handling of the sport, with educational bits and a lot of time spent covering the field.

OLN's coverage was unwatchable. When I saw that ignorant bubbly guy with the thick New Jersey accent out in the desert trying to talk to the drivers I was finished.

OLN's Tour de France coverage is top-notch, their untainted A1 GP coverage ideal (apart from the squashed aspect ratio), even the Rally America shows were ok, but Dakar? They need to leave the commentary to the experts.
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Old 12-22-2005, 02:52 PM   #15
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OLN's coverage was unwatchable. When I saw that ignorant bubbly guy with the thick New Jersey accent out in the desert trying to talk to the drivers I was finished.
That guy annoyed the hell out of me me too. I only watched the on demand 5 show version of OLN's coverage though. He dissappeared about the third show. He's bones are probablly bleaching out there in the desert somewhere. Hopefully anyway.
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Old 12-22-2005, 02:57 PM   #16
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That commentator annoyed me also but I stuck it out to see what happened in the event. I miss the Speed channel coverage of the Dakar.
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Old 12-22-2005, 04:46 PM   #17
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Didn't Rod Hall race a Hummer in the 1996 Dakar? I recall they didn't do so well.
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:27 PM   #18
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Robby's truck this year isn't really a Hummer per-se. It's more like a SCORE Trophy Truck with the tube-frame chasis and a Hummer body shell on it and most likely, a Chevy powerplant.

Their support vehicles are actual Hummer H1's, though.
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Old 12-22-2005, 10:37 PM   #19
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Robby's truck this year isn't really a Hummer per-se. It's more like a SCORE Trophy Truck
I guess he plans to scare the locals After watching Dust to Glory last night, I'm pumped for Dakar
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:28 PM   #20
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I hope russians will win in trucks group with their KAMAZ like last 2 years 1,2
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:47 PM   #21
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I hope russians will win in trucks group with their KAMAZ like last 2 years 1,2
Same here!
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Old 12-24-2005, 02:23 AM   #22
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I admit that I know next to nothing about the Dakar Rally, but I was reading about the H3 entry into the rally (there's a nice writeup at Car and Driver), and it sort of bummed me out. Granted, I doubt that any of the other manufacturers use stock-based cars in the race, but I don't see how they can call the H3 entry an H3, when the only piece it seems to use from the production vehicle is the front grille. It's too NASCAR-ish for me, where the 'race car' has nothing in common with the street car. I wish they would've just called it the Chevy DakarDominator or something, and been honest about it.
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Old 12-24-2005, 09:36 AM   #23
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Rallying is about real cars on real roads.

Dakar isn't. It's about who can go from point A to point B the fastest. Some of the entries are home-built buggies. The problem is it is very expensive to build a competitive machine, so most teams make a deal with a manufacturer to dress up their vehicles to look like a production model. The manufacturer gets press and the team gets money. There are also factory entries, were the manufacturer assembles the vehicle and hires a team to drive it. Again, underneath these are not production vehicles, but are prototype designs that are in effect being tested.
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Old 12-24-2005, 12:07 PM   #24
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Almost all of the factory cars/trucks are one-off race machines. The exterior looks original for obvious advertising reasons. Like all televised racing it's a show for the sponsors.

Imo in rallying I like to see special built hardware. Plus Dakar does not have roads so stock or stock prepared vehicles have a difficult time traversing at a quick enough pace to keep the general audience interested. In other words they have to crawl through much of the terrain just to finish. I like the speed and excitment race cars deliver.

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There is nothing NASCARish about driving 9000 km trough most grueling conditions whether by motorcycle, one of those prototypes or 3 axels truck.
I hope I will not miss this year coverage on Speed. I remember they were showing one of the KAMAZ's trucks passing on straight line driving trough african beach one of the factory sponsored Pajero's
Memory bring me back when I was racing my military truck in Kazakstan desert. What a feeling!
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I admit that I know next to nothing about the Dakar Rally, but I was reading about the H3 entry into the rally (there's a nice writeup at Car and Driver), and it sort of bummed me out. Granted, I doubt that any of the other manufacturers use stock-based cars in the race, but I don't see how they can call the H3 entry an H3, when the only piece it seems to use from the production vehicle is the front grille. It's too NASCAR-ish for me, where the 'race car' has nothing in common with the street car. I wish they would've just called it the Chevy DakarDominator or something, and been honest about it.
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