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Old 12-22-2005, 06:56 AM   #1
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Default Drove my friends 330xi, glad I did.

I was afraid to drive it because I thought I would have a hard time going back to my car. Not the case at all. I am finally free from lusting after the high priced Bimmer.

Don't get me wrong, it is a sweet car. The engine/exhaust note sounds phenomenal, just about better then a Porsche Boxster. The chasis is so tight with a decent ride, and the power delivery is so smooth. But that smoothness takes away from the feeling of accelerating fast. It accelerates fast but it never feels like it is going fast. Like it seemed to isolate me from the road too much. There was this numb feeling when driving it. Maybe the sport package would have helped. It is a nice car, but not $46k out the door nice.

I finally realize that I am not ready to go the luxury car route. I can easily live without all the cool luxury tech bits the Bimmer brings. I think I am going to eventually get an STI. It seems the turbo/AWD combo has spoiled me, and that is not a bad thing.
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:02 AM   #2
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thats good news. tell me when you get your STI, we should celebrate, together. as friends. non-gay friends.
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:21 AM   #3
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So basically what you're saying is they're 2 different cars. Yeah, most of us knew that too.
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:30 AM   #4
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Nah it is just wierd how you can think you want something because of marketing, mag reviews (more marketing), bs prestige, high price tag ect. and then realize it isn't that great. I don't know, it is just kind of liberating to find that out.
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:31 AM   #5
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:32 AM   #6
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are you kidding, those (insert common demographic of bmw drivers here) drive those bimmers, i hate bmw for that reason alone.

(brain turn off)

ignorance reloading for tommorow. eom.
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:32 AM   #7
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Get the 325Xi ... it has the 3.0 motor from the old 330Xi
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:59 AM   #8
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I drove both 325xi and 330xi. Well, my impresions were that it was a great car. Great power (330) and no rattles,even though one of the cars had 45k miles on it. Comfort, luxury. WHen I went back to my wrx, it just felt really crapy, rattles everywhere , but as soon as I heard the turbo spool I remembered what I liked about it. Its a lot more fun to drive.
Eventually I might settle for a bmw (m3:devil) but not yet.
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Old 12-22-2005, 08:11 AM   #9
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Were you testing one with the Elector-Active (or whatever BMW calls it) steering? In all the reviews I've read the reaction to this option has been negative and every reviewer has said, basically, "if you can't find one with normal r&p steering, wait."

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Old 12-22-2005, 09:00 AM   #10
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Were you testing one with the Elector-Active (or whatever BMW calls it) steering? In all the reviews I've read the reaction to this option has been negative and every reviewer has said, basically, "if you can't find one with normal r&p steering, wait."

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You know that might of been it. Plus the lack of the sport package, I felt like I was hovering over the seats instead of sitting in them.

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I drove both 325xi and 330xi. Well, my impresions were that it was a great car. Great power (330) and no rattles,even though one of the cars had 45k miles on it. Comfort, luxury. WHen I went back to my wrx, it just felt really crapy, rattles everywhere , but as soon as I heard the turbo spool I remembered what I liked about it. Its a lot more fun to drive.
Eventually I might settle for a bmw (m3:devil) but not yet.
I will admit my car felt so much less solid when I got back in it. Seemed to rattle even more. But still I think my car is faster and more fun to drive.
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Old 12-22-2005, 09:40 AM   #11
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I've sat in/test driven the new 325xi 330xi and 530xi and all are pretty impressive in terms of ride and even power. Sitting in the 530xi the car is really quiet smooth and still has a good amount of pick up (255hp). I really like the new 5 series interior but the back seat was a little smaller then I had expected. I liked the 530xi the most out of all of them...

(trying to convince my dad to get an m5 )
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Old 12-22-2005, 10:11 AM   #12
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I finally realize that I am not ready to go the luxury car route. I can easily live without all the cool luxury tech bits the Bimmer brings. I think I am going to eventually get an STI. It seems the turbo/AWD combo has spoiled me, and that is not a bad thing.

drive an STi first. the level of refinement, lack of rattles, and ride quality that the 3 series has over the WRX is about the same as the level that the WRX has over the STi. Just be sure you're willing to trade the comfort for the performance.
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Old 12-22-2005, 10:15 AM   #13
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Get the 325Xi ... it has the 3.0 motor from the old 330Xi
I thought the "25" in "325" was the discplacement? I'm pretty sure it is on all BMWs.

Anywho, My friend just got a 05 330CI and paid ~$42K for it. M3's aren't much more than that IIRC? Waste of money. It is pretty damn nice but still, I would have gone with the M3 for just a little more.
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Old 12-22-2005, 10:16 AM   #14
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I thought the "25" in "325" was the discplacement? I'm pretty sure it is on all BMWs.
It used to be that way, why they changed it this year, I dunno.
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Old 12-22-2005, 10:33 AM   #15
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i drove a friends 330xi a few years ago and when i got back into my SVX, i felt like the subaru was a faster car..
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Old 12-22-2005, 10:43 AM   #16
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I thought the "25" in "325" was the discplacement? I'm pretty sure it is on all BMWs.

Anywho, My friend just got a 05 330CI and paid ~$42K for it. M3's aren't much more than that IIRC? Waste of money. It is pretty damn nice but still, I would have gone with the M3 for just a little more.
which is why the last 323i had a 2.5L motor also.

the numbers are loosely tied to displacement, and relative performance, but not directly.
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Old 12-22-2005, 10:53 AM   #17
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...seemed to isolate me from the road too much. There was this numb feeling when driving it.
I test drove a 330Xi before buying the WRX, and that is exactly what I thought. Sure, it's a nice car and an extremely competent performer...but not the "driver's car" everyone raves about. The Subaru feels lighter, more rowdy, and less refined. All these things add up to a more entertaining driving experience for me.

FWIW, I have 68K on my WRX and no rattles. *knocks on wood*
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Old 12-22-2005, 10:59 AM   #18
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It used to be that way, why they changed it this year, I dunno.
Traditionally, the last two number in the model name indiates displacement on BMWs. Over there past few years, there have been notable exceptions:

e30 318ti = 1.9 litre 4 banger (in the last couple years)
e46 323i = 2.5 liter in-line 6
e90 325i = 3.0 litre in-line 6

I'm sure there are others, I just know those off the top of my head.
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:00 AM   #19
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I've driven the 330Xi, and Ci, and the e46 M3, and my feelings are similar.

Smooth, nice, good... but not the orgasmic experience I was lead to expect. It was... adequate. Pleasant.
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:11 AM   #20
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540 used to be a 4.4 liter V8...
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:17 AM   #21
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I just traded my WRX for a G35, and the luxury options are very nice to have, things you will never find in a Subaru, plus 300 hp....BUT I really do miss the turbo kick, that's what makes driving the WRX and STi so much fun.
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:39 AM   #22
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:39 AM   #23
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540 used to be a 4.4 liter V8...
and god what a V8.. an ex-girlfriends father drove a 540i touringwagon. AMAZING car.
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:41 AM   #24
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I test drove a 330Xi before buying the WRX, and that is exactly what I thought. Sure, it's a nice car and an extremely competent performer...but not the "driver's car" everyone raves about. The Subaru feels lighter, more rowdy, and less refined. All these things add up to a more entertaining driving experience for me.

FWIW, I have 68K on my WRX and no rattles. *knocks on wood*
i think that an AWD BMW loses a LOT of the "drivers car" feel due to power lost in the drivetrain..
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The chasis is so tight with a decent ride, and the power delivery is so smooth. But that smoothness takes away from the feeling of accelerating fast. It accelerates fast but it never feels like it is going fast. Like it seemed to isolate me from the road too much.
perfect balance is the whole point of these cars.
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