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Old 12-23-2005, 01:03 PM   #1
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Question Sparco seat mounting hardware question

<preamble>I know this has been asked a million times, but I'm feeling pretty stupid because the threads are overloaded with information and I can't figure out what I need.</preamble>

So with flame suit on... I'm looking to get a Sparco seat, and need to get the mounting hardware for it. I have an '04 STi. I *think* this is what I need to get the job done:

1. Seat


2. Seat brackets from Sparco (aluminum, steel, whatever)


3. Sparco universal sliders/track set


4. Sparco Impreza Seat Base


5. Sparco 50001 hardware kit


So I figure - bracket attaches to seat, attaches to slider, attaches to seat base, attaches to the car, without any drilling required. Would that work or am I missing something?

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Old 12-23-2005, 01:20 PM   #2
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I just bought a used seat and had the same questions. I called up Rally Sport Direct who told me what I needed and shipped it all out to me the same day. But anyway, yes, that's what you need, but also get the 50001 hardware kit ($7) which has all the bolts and stuff. You only need the sliders if you want to use them. There are a few seats like the Pro2000 that can technically be mounted directly to the base, but you have no height or angle adjustability, and it looks like the side mounts are a lot easier.

The following PDF file from Sparco gives instructions on mounting: http://www.sparcousa.com/resourceFiles/20.pdf

You will need, from what I can see, a socket wrench with 13mm socket (for Sparco nuts), 14mm socket (for 4 in-car bolts), and (what I found I am missing) a 6mm Allen wrench. I seem to have every size up to 6mm, and some 7mm, but no 6mm. Without that there is no way to get the nuts on. Anyway, I believe your logic is correct -- no drilling is supposed to be required, and definitely not on the car (I've heard some people have had to widen their base holes where the sliders attach slightly, but hopefully that won't be necessary.

Also I gather that the aluminum mounts are slightly lower than the steel ones, which may be what you want, or not.
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:28 PM   #3
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you got it buddie!!!! in theory thats right but the stuff nuver fits 100% right. just fight with it for a bit and it will come together,m good luck
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:41 PM   #4
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Thanks for the responses. I'll try it out and post here in a month or so

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Old 12-23-2005, 01:49 PM   #5
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Thanks for the responses. I'll try it out and post here in a month or so

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A month or so. Think it will take that long to install?
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:57 PM   #6
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heres another resource for the records...

http://www.sparcousa.com/resourceFiles/30.pdf
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:25 PM   #7
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A month or so. Think it will take that long to install?
He installs like he drives... slow and sloppy!
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:26 PM   #8
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What was your total cost on that stuff?

I have two Sparco Evos in my Miata. It might be nice to pick up some mounting hardware so that I can put the passenger-side one in the WRX.

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Old 12-23-2005, 02:47 PM   #9
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here's what I sourced for my Torino install (back in the day)
sparco seat hardware bases $60
sparco seat hardware sliders $55
sparco seat hardware adapters $40
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:14 PM   #10
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A month or so. Think it will take that long to install?
Ever order anything from Sparco? In my experience, it'll take that long to get it in. Who knows, it might be longer, if it's not "in stock", according to Sparco USA. Best we could guess is that "in stock" means "in stock in Japan, so we just have to ship it, but won't also have to manufacture it".

That said, I love my Sparco Pro2000s. Absolutely adore them. But it was a solid month before we got them.

In case you don't already have a vendor picked out, here's another source for Sparco seats:
http://www.soloracer.com/sparcoseats.html

In Brett's seat guide, it is mentioned that the Rev has side mounts only, so you should use the side mounts. I believe that means the sliders wouldn't work but I'm not sure, since our Pro2000s were either side mount or bottom mount, and we mounted ours on the bottom. Best bet is to contact a vendor and ask. I've always found Brett at SoloRacer.com to be very helpful.
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:25 PM   #11
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Yep, Looks like you have everything you need to get that baby installed.
If anyone has any questions regarding Sparco seats and accessories, please give us a call. We have done many seat installs and we keep most seats/accessories in stock. We also are a Sparco Whoesale Distributer, so if we dont have it in stock, we can tell you if sparco does and how long until we can get it for you.
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:34 PM   #12
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He installs like he drives... slow and sloppy!
<EDIT: Ok that was mean >
**** off, Ryan

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What was your total cost on that stuff?

I have two Sparco Evos in my Miata. It might be nice to pick up some mounting hardware so that I can put the passenger-side one in the WRX.

john
I'm not sure yet. I'm just putting the list together

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Old 12-23-2005, 07:51 PM   #13
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wow you are one of the firsts i've seen to copy and paste a results page. You just don't ****'in go there in my book. But for Ryan we make exceptions
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Lime Rock Park, November 19, 2005
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I'm not sure yet. I'm just putting the list together

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wow, thats low but I guess he likes getting kicked in the nuts
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:12 PM   #15
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Raj, replied to your PM.

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Be prepared to be terribly frustrated. I got my missing allen wrench, then found that my cheap socket set isn't bloody deep enough, so I'm crushing my fingers with a set of pliers. I've now found that at it's widest position the seat brackets are 15" apart while the Pro2000 seat is 16" wide, so it doesn't fit. There's another set of holes farther apart in the base that would probably solve this, but the holes in the sliders won't fit them. I'm now at a loss for what to do other than drill extra holes in my sliders. Unless I'm supposed to cram the seat in there and have the sliders bent outward so they look like they're going to break.
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Well, that sounds intensely bad. Just the type of thing I don't want to get into. Let us know how you end up solving it.

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wow, thats low but I guess he likes getting kicked in the nuts
Hehe, he only beat me at all the other events. And I only drove with warmer tires. And ran in better weather. And had less of a sandy clam syndrome

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Old 12-23-2005, 10:56 PM   #18
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I am looking to install a Torino in my '06.....just the drivers side.

Is it possible to remove the stock seat and use all the stock seat hardware...ie..the base and slider, on the Torino???
It seems that the '06 slider has a sensor that adjusts the airbag deployment based on seat position and I would like to leave that functional
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Old 12-24-2005, 12:36 AM   #19
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Raj - if you need help with the install I have put my Sparcos in and taken them out several times. In fact I'll be installing a new one in the next few weeks.
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Well, I drilled new holes in the sliders and everything fits. Except the sliders are now 2 inches further apart so the adjustment-tube doesn't fit, which means no using the sliders unless I hand-craft something. Even with the side rail I'm sitting a lot lower in the car than with the stock seats -- mounting directly to the floor would make me look like a Grandma trying to peek over the wheel! It'd save time at the Evo Challenge school though .

I'm debating, since I have the Pro2000 with the bottom mounts, mounting the seat directly to the slider using longer studs and thick aluminum washers. It wouldn't be adjustable on the fly like the side brackets. Alternately I could try to get a new wider slider-tube.

P.S. Weighed everything. Stock seat including all hardware is 45 pounds, which is the same as what I measured back in 2003. Sparc Pro2000 with base, sliders, aluminum side brackets, and all padding comes to 33 pounds. An Evo or Sprint would be 3 pounds lighter, and losing the sliders would save a couple more.

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Raj - I believe there are two Impreza seat bases available - one is the base you have pictured, the other is a flat mount bracket. The first one keeps the seat at about the stock height in the car, the flat mount really lowers the seat by a couple of inches. Both of my seats have the flat mounts (with sliders) - Ir I was the only person that drove the car, I'd get rid of the sliders, but since ya never know who might want a ride....

I do have one spare slider if you decide you want it.

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Bump from teh dead.

I'm taking the Sparco Evos out of my Miata since it's a DD now and putting them in the WRX. I'm debating whether to have the local race shop (Piper Motorsport) fabricate the brackets or whether to just use the off the shelf ones.

From the looks of it, it's cheaper to go with the prefab stuff, but not by as much as I'd like:

OTS Sparco Impreza seat base (lower bracket): ~$200
+ Side brackets: $50 = total of $250

Custom brackets: 3-4 hrs of labor per side ($85/hr): $255-$340

Either way I'll need sliders.

Is there any reason to do one over the other? Are my prices on the OTS stuff off? My inclination is just to get them to build some since the cost is similar, but if the OTS stuff is cheaper than I think it is and just as good that would probably save me some cash.

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I have everything you need to install an Evo on the drivers side for sale if you are interested, it's just sitting in my closet. Drivers base, slider, side mount already bolted together waiting to go in a car.
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Bump from teh dead.

I'm taking the Sparco Evos out of my Miata since it's a DD now and putting them in the WRX. I'm debating whether to have the local race shop (Piper Motorsport) fabricate the brackets or whether to just use the off the shelf ones.

From the looks of it, it's cheaper to go with the prefab stuff, but not by as much as I'd like:

OTS Sparco Impreza seat base (lower bracket): ~$200
+ Side brackets: $50 = total of $250

Custom brackets: 3-4 hrs of labor per side ($85/hr): $255-$340

Either way I'll need sliders.

Is there any reason to do one over the other? Are my prices on the OTS stuff off? My inclination is just to get them to build some since the cost is similar, but if the OTS stuff is cheaper than I think it is and just as good that would probably save me some cash.

Thanks,
John

I have the sparco steel OTS base and if something custom was made stronger than I would go with that. I have had some bending of my sparco mount and all the car is used for is autocross.

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Our Sparco mounts took some Dremel work to make the holes line up. It wasn't a true bolt and go. So take into account the time it will take you to do that when thinking of the cost comparison. Or if you're impatient like me the time it will take to source new bolts, a 12x1.25 tap, re-tapping the holes for two bolts, drilling out one that was too badly damaged to re-tap on the passenger side, sourcing a longer bolt a pair of flat washers and a nut to match for the hole you drilled out.

Needless to say it would have saved me several hours of frustration if I had just Dremeled the brackets to make them fit to begin with.
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