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Old 12-25-2005, 07:51 PM   #1
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Did a little research and found out that the new Azenis RT 615 is the right tire to go with after coming from RE 070 on 05 STI. Well I picked up a set (225/45/17)yesterday $730 out the door from America's Tire and was wondering what is really the break in period. I have read a few places here and on other forums that you need to break the tires in before they feel real grippy. The Tech left all 4 at 35 PSI and after a few left and rights it feels like I was sitting on a bean bag. I jacked it up to 40 PSI and it feels like there is less flex on the side walls now. I wanted to get opinions from people who have gone from RE070's to RT 615 as well as others and how they think this Tire really ranks.. I hope I didn't make the wrong choice... Thanks guys
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:03 PM   #2
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...some say none....some say 300-400 miles....my 215's took almost 1k miles before they really started to grip
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:25 PM   #3
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wow overpay much?
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:39 PM   #4
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wow overpay much?
if the $730 included tax, disposal, mounting ,and balance. its not bad at all. it's already $660 shipped from www.tires.com
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Old 12-25-2005, 09:05 PM   #5
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Yes like I mentioned out the door($730). Tire itself was $158 each.

Another opinion regarding the RT 615... much quieter than the RE070... but they did have 21K before I took them off. Guess noise won't matter more since I am putting in an APS 3" TBE and Accessport tomorrow morning..

Gave up the 56" inch LCD Samsung for Tires/TBE/Accessport.. I made the right choice..guys...
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Old 12-25-2005, 09:55 PM   #6
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if the $730 included tax, disposal, mounting ,and balance. its not bad at all. it's already $660 shipped from www.tires.com
They are 486 shipped from edgeracing. Peeps need to research...although it's not my money you are spending so carry on I'm a cheap bastid so I've been looking around for months.
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Old 12-25-2005, 11:33 PM   #7
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Its $530 shipped to my zip. Another $100 for mount and balance for the 4 bringing it to $630. So I did pay an extra $100 but I think it was convenient since I didn't have to wait until Jan 2nd to ship and get them on the 9th.. then take them to the tire shop to get them mounted. Wanted an opinion on the performance and not the price..
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Old 12-26-2005, 02:15 AM   #8
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i think you just need to scrub them in real good as in a weekend of med/hi speed driving (couple 100 miles). your just trying to get the molding grease or whatever it is off. i say you need to do a burnout on new tires to officially break them in but what do i know. i will say rotate them often like every 3k or oil change you wont be sorry. i have 3 trackdays and 13000 miles on mine with barely under half tread left.

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Old 12-26-2005, 07:16 AM   #9
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They are 486 shipped from edgeracing. Peeps need to research...although it's not my money you are spending so carry on I'm a cheap bastid so I've been looking around for months.
okay, i was owned...didnt realize edgeracing had em for that cheap
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:32 AM   #10
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$404 for 245/45's, cash, picked-up in the Los Angeles area. Falken is giving dealers money back ... so some are selling for $ over dealer invoice.

For AX ... 38 all around for the 215 Falken that had stiffer sidewalls. 40 is probably OK for the 615's.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:39 AM   #11
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I can't wait for these to be avaliable in a 225/50/16 size... I'm going to need a set when my old Azenis Sports 215s wear out.
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Old 12-27-2005, 10:59 AM   #12
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Anyone know if you can mount the 245/45 on a 7.5" wheel?
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:01 PM   #13
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Anyone know if you can mount the 245/45 on a 7.5" wheel?

...according to Falken tire....that size is approved for 7.5-9.0 inch wide wheels

http://www.falkentire.com/615micro.htm
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:02 PM   #14
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I see that now, but dont think it would be advantageous cause of the gearing. Thank you though.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:04 PM   #15
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I see that now, but dont think it would be advantageous cause of the gearing. Thank you though.

...not on a WRX....the 215/45 would work....and would likely be lighter, too
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Thats what I run now, is the 215/45/16 rt215's. I love the stiff sidewalls. is there much benefit in changing from what I have now, to a 225/45/17 rt615? I know the 615 is a much better tire.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:14 PM   #17
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....I might be inclined to try the 215/40....I have 235/40 hankooks on my 17x7.5 ssr's and they are great.....that size is listed as 'TBA' for the 615....mebbe wait for that one
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:48 PM   #18
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Grassroots Motor Sports magazine did a comparison test using 16, 17 and 18" wheels. 17" was THE best compromise of weight and sidewall stiffness.

The standard WRX high performance size tire is 225/45/17. The Ideal Size for WRX autocrossing is 235/40/17 ... slightly shorter for better gearing (more boost out of tight corners) and slightly wider. Some tire tests say that the problem with the 615 is that it eliminated the 215 Falken. :-) The 615 sidewall is definitely softer.

According to a bunch of tire tests lately ... the best overall tire (wet included) is the Goodyear GS-D3. The best dry tire is the Yoko Adven Neovo. Both are expensive! The best value dry tire is the Hankook RS-2
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:55 PM   #19
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That is with the 615 being $158 a tire, now they are onsale for $112 in the 225/45/17 size though.

Who has experience on teh 615 and 215, and what are the differences?
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In L.A. we can get the 615's for $101 (245/45/17!) ... dollar over dealer invoice ... because the dealers are getting a kick back from Falken.

The 615, besides softer side walls has become more of an all-around tire as compared to the no-holds barred 215. It's also quieter. Better in the wet. It's still a MAXIMUM performance dry tire and a favorite in the extreme world of national level autocrossing. The Yoko Adven is slightly better ... but much more expensive. At serious AX levels, the cars handling needs to be tuned to the specific tire.

Seems that the 215 was just slightly better at the first corner, but then could also go greasy sooner. Seems like the 615 needs slightly less water spray cooling between hot weather laps.

Questions like this are best answered in the Motorsports section.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:56 PM   #21
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yeah I know, we have been discussing it their too.
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In L.A. we can get the 615's for $101 (245/45/17!) ... dollar over dealer invoice ... because the dealers are getting a kick back from Falken.

The 615, besides softer side walls has become more of an all-around tire as compared to the no-holds barred 215. It's also quieter. Better in the wet. It's still a MAXIMUM performance dry tire and a favorite in the extreme world of national level autocrossing. The Yoko Adven is slightly better ... but much more expensive. At serious AX levels, the cars handling needs to be tuned to the specific tire.

Seems that the 215 was just slightly better at the first corner, but then could also go greasy sooner. Seems like the 615 needs slightly less water spray cooling between hot weather laps.

Questions like this are best answered in the Motorsports section.
how would the sidewall stiffness of the 615 compare to the re070 ?
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Old 12-28-2005, 10:52 PM   #23
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Sidewall stiffness is not the same as the RE 070 but the grip is there. Just throw it in the corner and it will hold on. You won't even notice it on On/Off ramps.. only maybe on 90 degree turns..it will feel a tadd bit squishy.. but other than that you won't be able to make out the difference. Then again I have heard of a little breakin in time to get the new tire mold off it. I'll post more impressions later. I'm just surprised not a lot of people have posted their opinions yet.. I guess not a lot of guys are running the new RT's yet.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:34 PM   #24
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I'm running the RT615 225/45/17 on Enkei RPF1 17x7.5.

I think they are an excellent tire. I may not have a scientific evaluation like some other people on the forum but I can say that they are confidence inspiring and that alone makes me want to push the car more and hence be faster...I'm talking about autocrossing here. I run about 38psi front & 42 psi rear, or slightly more front and rear. I ran them on street until recently so that I won't burn them in my daily commute. I have Espiler GT springs, AGX, Noltec camber/caster plates (-3), rear camber bolts (-1), FSB 24mm, and RSB 26mm.

I used to have the RT215 on the stock rims and no suspension mods at all when I first started and those tires felt rock solid...I love it. The response was immediate upon turning the wheel. But it's unfair to comparate two. Especially because I have gotten a lot better at autocrossing.

Both are fantastic tires IMO.
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wait wait, you ran more pressure in the rear than the front???
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