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View Poll Results: Which Tires for One Lap of America?
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 46 34.33%
Kumho ECSTA MX 26 19.40%
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KD 25 18.66%
Dunlop SP Sport 9000 2 1.49%
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 12 8.96%
Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 7 5.22%
Michelin Pilot Sport 7 5.22%
Yokohama AVS Sport 9 6.72%
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:35 AM   #1
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Tire Rack just released the policy. 140+ treadwear, no shaving, must be bought from tire rack from certain brands. complete rules are here:

http://www.onelapofamerica.com/whats...dex.shtml?0103

i'm going w/ a 17" 275 width tire, which pretty much means i'm down to these tires:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compar...=All&x=63&y=10

my short list, in order, is the PS2, MX and then the g-force. has the mx or g-force been improved lately? they've been released for a while.

any suggestions?

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Old 12-27-2005, 11:45 AM   #2
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Defintely go with the KD's. The MX's would be my next pick. I wouldn't waste my time with either of the other options. It would help if we knew which car these were for. What size wheel, suspension setup, alignment settings, hp, etc.

Both of those tires hold up really well to heat. The KD's have slightly stiffer sidewalls, and slightly better grip. Although, I'm not sure how their wet performance is.

Is there any reason you don't have the Azenis or Advan Neova on the list? Both would be much better.
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:49 AM   #3
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Is there any reason you don't have the Azenis or Advan Neova on the list? Both would be much better.
You didn't look at the link did you? Tire Rack don't sell Falken. And Advan doesn't make the Neova's in 275/40's.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:01 PM   #4
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Luke:

Isn't the PS2 a new design?

PS2->GS-D3->MX (as much as I love the MXs they aren't in the same league as the Michelins)

Hit the Jan 7 autocross at Buckingham and talk to Dave S. (drives a trick GTI or Porsche) he seems to have the inside scoop on Michelin stuff...

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Old 12-27-2005, 12:11 PM   #5
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+1 Michelin
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:18 PM   #6
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Heard some good things about the dunlop SP's... good in the warm, wet, and longevity.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:33 PM   #7
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one lap is basically 3 hot laps at a time, not much time for heat to develop. suspension? appropriate track day set up, big fat sway bars, links, custom jics w/ 600 lb springs, camber plates.

i really liked the ps2s in '05. maybe i shouldn't mess w/ a good thing. i just wish the sidewalls were stiffer.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:38 PM   #8
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The Yokohama Neova comes in a 255/40/17 with a section width and tread width equal to the rest of the tires you are considering. And it is the fastest of the tires available.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:44 PM   #9
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Hasn't the One Lap included a wet skidpad in the past? This along with the fact that events are run regardless of weather... rain or shine... would lead me away from the KD's.

My votes goes to the PS2's with GS-D3's second.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:49 PM   #10
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The Yokohama Neova comes in a 255/40/17 with a section width and tread width equal to the rest of the tires you are considering. And it is the fastest of the tires available.
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If you guys seriously think any of those tires are better than the Yokos, especially the PS2's, you need to do more testing.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:01 PM   #12
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Go look at car and drivers tire test they did recently. In the dry the i think i recall the KD being beater or atleast faster then almost everything you mentioned(maybe not neova).
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:03 PM   #13
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Go look at car and drivers tire test they did recently. In the dry the i think i recall the KD being beater or atleast faster then almost everything you mentioned(maybe not neova).
Add in water and the KD goes to crap, where the Neovas still do well... (and I don't like the results of the C&D test... ) Advans FTW.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:10 PM   #14
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Go look at car and drivers tire test they did recently. In the dry the i think i recall the KD being beater or atleast faster then almost everything you mentioned(maybe not neova).
You belive everything you read?
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:13 PM   #15
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The Yokohama Neova comes in a 255/40/17 with a section width and tread width equal to the rest of the tires you are considering. And it is the fastest of the tires available.
That's very interesting. I considered them but threw them out because of the 255 size (didn't bother to check actual widths). I was crossing my fingers to see if they would offer something closer to 275. But if they're the same size, it might be worth testing with.

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Old 12-27-2005, 01:29 PM   #16
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if i did go w/ the 255 neova, would you mount them to 19lb. 8.5" wide rims or 17lb 8" wide rims?

yes i know there are lighter rims, but these are what i currently have.

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Old 12-27-2005, 01:39 PM   #17
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The wider the better. Josh Sorter did some testing, and the 235 fit best on an 8 inch wheel, better than the 245.
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DO NOT go with the KD. You will lose big time if it rains.

If you only have 8.5" wheels, I think the 255 Advan would be your best choice out of that bunch. Naturally shaved of course. If you go out on full tread, you are giving up quite a bit IMHO.

For 9" wheels, I think a shaved 275 MX would be hard to beat.

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If you guys seriously think any of those tires are better than the Yokos, especially the PS2's, you need to do more testing.
You do realize that 90% of people that post here have no clue right? They just repeat what other have told them

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The rules say you cannot shave the tires...
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:04 PM   #21
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i basically just post to get yours and KCs and few others input. btw, buried in the rules is anti-shaving laws.

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You should shave every one of your tires The road makes a great tire shaver.

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You should shave every one of your tires The road makes a great tire shaver.

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So true. Write a rule, Tom will find a way to interpret the rule.
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:11 PM   #24
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Seriously. You must "start" the event with 8/32s, and end the event with 2/32s at 2 points that are 180 degrees apart. Well thats easy as HELL.

Start the event with new tires.
Go do like 500 laps or something around a parking lot.
That way your "dry fronts" will start around 4 or 5/32s. Your "dry rears" will have more tread that way.
Use your "full tread spares" as rains for the front and also as "drive between event fronts" so you use your shaved fronts as "race only fronts". Your rears won't wear as much and should last the whole event on the back no problem.

I'm sure you will find 2 points on your worn ass out MXs on the inside where there is 2/32s of tread left.

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Yokos FTW. My experience with the BFGs tells me they are horrible except in their ideal conditions which is dry, above 60 degrees and below 100 degrees. Other than that they just plain did not work for me. Just my 2 cents.
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