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Old 07-10-2007, 05:49 PM   #2501
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this kit is bad real bad... i bought it and it was a waste of money the piping just kept popping off, i wouldnt recommend it. but thas just my 2 cents
I've been running my kit @20psi for 4 months now and not a single hose has popped off(knock on wood). There was probably an error in your install, which was probably the t-bolts not being tight enough. My friends APS DR525 fmic has been popping hoses left and right since he's got it, he is using t-bolts as well...but he isn't knocking the product.
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:30 PM   #2502
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without reading 101 pages, does this kit come with a bumper support beam or do i need to modify my stock one? I really want to go FMIC but dont want any kind of insurance problems if there is some kind of accident.
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Old 07-10-2007, 07:10 PM   #2503
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It comes with a very small/very thin bumper beam.

You can see it here under the intercooler.


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Old 07-10-2007, 07:14 PM   #2504
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19psi on an 18g here - no problems. never had a hose pop off on me.
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Old 07-10-2007, 07:58 PM   #2505
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it's NOT a F$&*%in BUMPER BEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:05 PM   #2506
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Ok, intercooler bracket.
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:41 PM   #2507
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Ok, intercooler bracket.




bumper beam?






little upset cause I can't find the pics where the guy wrecked the wrx with a ssac/txs fmic. You should see that beam/bracket I can bend the damn thing in half, with my hands.
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:23 PM   #2508
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Yeah, that picture could very well be the result of a 2mph collision. There is nothing there to transfer any shock or load to the main frame. It will crush like a soda can in an accident.

"Beam" should not be used to describe it.
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:04 PM   #2509
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this kit is bad real bad... i bought it and it was a waste of money the piping just kept popping off, i wouldnt recommend it. but thas just my 2 cents
I'm half temped to add this quote to the FAQ for fun.

And by the way that wasn't not 2 cents worth of information. Send me your address and I'll refund you 5 cents back.

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it's NOT a F$&*%in BUMPER BEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Again people calling it a bumper beam is less about what it does and more about people knowing WTF you are talking about. I said this before, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that thin piece of aluminum isn't going to protect you or your car in an accident.

Geez man why are you so hung up on the wording people use?
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:08 PM   #2510
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^^^cause people DO think it's a replacement!

a fmic isn't for everyone, and this is one of the major reasons why people DON'T put a fmic on their car.
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:38 PM   #2511
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that why im taking mine to my buddies shop and having him trim and reenforce my bumper beam. Gettin dropped from insurance sucks.
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:42 PM   #2512
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Yeah, that picture could very well be the result of a 2mph collision. There is nothing there to transfer any shock or load to the main frame. It will crush like a soda can in an accident.

"Beam" should not be used to describe it.
That's fine and dandy because it's not a bumper beam and it is not, nor has it ever, been intended to one. It's an ic core support.
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:05 PM   #2513
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that why im taking mine to my buddies shop and having him trim and reenforce my bumper beam. Gettin dropped from insurance sucks.

What shop? Let me know how this works out for you as I'll probably want to have it done too.
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:11 PM   #2514
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its called bruhy paint and autobody its a lil backyard under the table type of thing. But he does alot of hot rods. Just did one for barret jackson. He did it to his DSM. We are gonna play with mine see how it works out.
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Old 07-11-2007, 08:02 PM   #2515
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I personally wouldnt do it any other way. Yes, many FMIC kits will not allow the bumper reinforcement to fit after install. It is up to the car owner to either trim/modify the stock support to fit or to have a body shop modify it for them. The extra cost in labor to have the support work in conjunction with the FMIC is $$ I would not mind spending for the piece of mind...
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:36 AM   #2516
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well lets face it...i dont want to have a 30k dollar car get totaled and then have my insurance drop me lol
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:46 PM   #2517
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You guy's do realize that if you modify your Bumper reinforcement in ANY way the insurance company is just as likley to drop you. This is why Aftermarket Body replacement parts cannot make major structural pieces. They have to be OEM to be legal.
For instance if a Reinforcement is damaged (Even a tiny bit) it MUST be replaced per the insurance company. We cannot re-weld a reinforcement, even with a crack as we will then become liable.

Any body shop that will modify your reinforcement for you is deff. gonna be a small out of the way shop.

I work for a Toyota dealer Body shop, and there is no way in hell they would let us do this.

So unless you can find a way to retain your stock reinforcement unmodified then you might as well run their aluminum bracket.. at that point it is all the same to the insurance company.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:54 PM   #2518
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What size is the Core on this kit? I have looked all over without finding any real answer.

Also has anyone used this with a Parrin Rotated kit? Is it completely compatable?

Thanks guys.
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:43 AM   #2519
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with a modified bumper beam u have a better chance of not destoring ur car in a small fender bender.
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:08 PM   #2520
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What size is the Core on this kit? I have looked all over without finding any real answer.

Also has anyone used this with a Parrin Rotated kit? Is it completely compatable?

Thanks guys.
There's been a few guys with the perrin rotated kits and this fmic. I am one of them that had the 30r kit on.

is it COMPLETELY compatible? no, slight modification needed. If you search back in this thread, Ihave pics. Or you can search "my addiction: my sti" in the members gallery, my thread has lots and lots of pics of the install and what i did to make the kit fit.

You'll need some extra couplers and such.......probably $75 or so in clamps, couplers, SS joiners....etc. Worked out well when It was all done.


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Old 07-16-2007, 06:46 PM   #2521
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Is it worth it to have a fabricator just add on or make a stronger bumper beam instead of that "intercooler bracket"

Im willing to pay it im just seeing if it would even help.
Thanks!
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Old 07-16-2007, 07:41 PM   #2522
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^^^it's all up to you and how safe you feel. IMO, take the OEM bumper beam off, take a look at it, judge it, and then look at the new bracket....then go from there.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:10 AM   #2523
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The biggest worry for me is, having to pay off a $30k car becuase someone cut me off.. and the insurance company refuses to pay.

Are there any FMIC kits people have used with the stock reinforment unmodified?
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:32 AM   #2524
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Are there any FMIC kits people have used with the stock reinforment unmodified?
yes but it depends on how bit a turbo you were planning. here is an example but i think this maybe be minimum size for a green and thats probably pushing it.

http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop...es-p-1994.html

i personally am thinking about going this route even though its not a huge core but im not going for looks.
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:21 AM   #2525
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The biggest worry for me is, having to pay off a $30k car becuase someone cut me off.. and the insurance company refuses to pay.

Are there any FMIC kits people have used with the stock reinforment unmodified?
Injen, but it's so small that even though it's a FMIC is heatsoaks as bad as a TMIC.
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