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Old 01-01-2006, 08:12 AM   #51
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Old 01-01-2006, 11:57 AM   #52
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High-temp radiator paint. You can find it at almost any auto parts store. Just make several *reeeely light* passes so you don't over-cover any areas.
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Old 01-01-2006, 12:07 PM   #53
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That was a quick one at night, I'll take some day shots today.
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Old 01-01-2006, 03:03 PM   #54
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are the real turboxs fmics made in china too? I wouldn't be suprised if the fmics are made at the same factory, from the same supplier.
Nathan from TXS posted about this in the previous thread (see link in post #1). He said they are not from the same source.
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Old 01-01-2006, 07:55 PM   #55
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Old 01-01-2006, 08:44 PM   #56
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Looks great. Can you post a closeup of your BPV setup? I had to use a bent pipe to make mine fit. It works fine for me, but I'm curious how others solved the problem. Did you use the stock dump pipe (between BPV and turbo inlet hose?)
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Old 01-01-2006, 09:28 PM   #57
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Looks great. Can you post a closeup of your BPV setup? I had to use a bent pipe to make mine fit. It works fine for me, but I'm curious how others solved the problem.
Yes, I reused the stock return pipe. I spun the BOV aroud. Here is a pic: BOV PICTURE

There are two more pics in that same directory.
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Old 01-03-2006, 11:02 AM   #58
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Mine arrived while I was on vacation. Haven't had a chance to dig into it yet, but I am very impressed with the packaging and the apparent quality of the parts. Thanks to Freon for the writeup/pics; I ordered the BPV flange off ebay this morning since I want to reuse the stocker. Also found a 2.75-2.5 coupler for $14+ship there... can't wait to get it all together!
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Old 01-04-2006, 05:00 AM   #59
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hey type-c where did you get your flange that bolts to the stock bov? i am planing on using the stock bov when i get this fmic.
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Old 01-04-2006, 06:52 AM   #60
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I found the flange on ebay... it's a TurboXS one. Look in Freon's link, he has a text file describing what he did.
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Old 01-04-2006, 08:08 AM   #61
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is the turboxs adapter plate made of SS or aluminum? im wondering if u can hav it welded on for a cleaner install.
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Old 01-04-2006, 09:36 AM   #62
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Those who've installed this FMIC - do you notice any increased lag as a consequence of all that extra piping and larger volume of the I/C - or does it seem to spool up at a similar rate to stock?
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Old 01-04-2006, 10:05 AM   #63
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Those who've installed this FMIC - do you notice any increased lag as a consequence of all that extra piping and larger volume of the I/C - or does it seem to spool up at a similar rate to stock?
On a 2.5l motor, it seems to spool up pretty darn close to stock (i.e. I don't notice the difference in spool at all). And even if you do trade maybe 200-300rpms for the increase in cooling ability - it's totally worth it imho. The amount of advance you can add (in addition to headroom for larger turbos ) is a solid win.
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Old 01-04-2006, 10:40 AM   #64
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On a 2.5l motor, it seems to spool up pretty darn close to stock (i.e. I don't notice the difference in spool at all). And even if you do trade maybe 200-300rpms for the increase in cooling ability - it's totally worth it imho. The amount of advance you can add (in addition to headroom for larger turbos ) is a solid win.
I'm chemically intercooled, so there's not much advantage there for me. I am interested primarily because it would make it possible to eliminate the hood scoop and go stealthy.
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Old 01-04-2006, 10:47 AM   #65
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I'm chemically intercooled, so there's not much advantage there for me. I am interested primarily because it would make it possible to eliminate the hood scoop and go stealthy.
+1 for that idea. I've been looking into getting a JDM RS hood (Alminium AND scoopless) but it's pretty pricey.

Teh wallet is going to get pwnd again this year, I can already see it coming.
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Old 01-04-2006, 03:32 PM   #66
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Subjectively I have noticed a slower response with the stock VF39. I am working on retuning the car now and will post some logs and graphs once I'm finished.

Boost threshold in higher gears is about the same, but I do notice actual delay lag, even at high RPM. I think this is to be expected since the whole IC volume has to be pressurized. Total IC volume is easily 3-4x more. I also generally expect the car to be slower until I get a new turbo.
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Old 01-04-2006, 06:16 PM   #67
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so what does the kit comes with? look at ebay for this item and doesn't list the parts it comes with. And what do i need to fit this on my wrx beside the 2.75 to 2.5 coupler.
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Old 01-04-2006, 09:07 PM   #68
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so what does the kit comes with? look at ebay for this item and doesn't list the parts it comes with. And what do i need to fit this on my wrx beside the 2.75 to 2.5 coupler.
Some sort of coupler for your BPV or BOV( I got a hose today for mine at Autozone), some minor screws and washers, and a 2.5"-2-75" coupler.
I STRONGLY SUGGEST NOT TO PURCHASE FROM: X02 RACING on Ebay, I was shipped the wrong size coupler, and they won't refund me or send me the right size coupler untill they recive the original one they sent me. It took 11 days just to get the wrong size coupler, and now they want me to ship it back at my expense .
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Old 01-04-2006, 10:03 PM   #69
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hey type-c where did you get your flange that bolts to the stock bov? i am planing on using the stock bov when i get this fmic.
I had my welder fab and tig it up while I waited.
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Old 01-04-2006, 10:07 PM   #70
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Subjectively I have noticed a slower response with the stock VF39. I am working on retuning the car now and will post some logs and graphs once I'm finished.

Boost threshold in higher gears is about the same, but I do notice actual delay lag, even at high RPM. I think this is to be expected since the whole IC volume has to be pressurized. Total IC volume is easily 3-4x more. I also generally expect the car to be slower until I get a new turbo.

The part throttle and daily driving response is exactly the same. I too am on VF39 and 2.5L, although I'm running higher CR (8.78:1) which helps. When I floor it from a low rpm in 4th and log the boost onset is just about the same (17psi at 2900-3000rpms).

There isn't any "lag" but there is a delay when going from vacume to WOT. You hear the turbo whine, wait a split second, then BAM it hits you in the back. It's pretty fun.
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Well, I installed the short ram yesterday, and had to tweak the MAF hole on one side a bit for it to fit. Five seconds with a dremel, nothing worse.

While I am waiting for the 2.5-2.75 coupler and BOV flange to arrive, I was hoping to install most of the kit in advance... I noticed I am supposed to re-use the TMIC mounting bolts. Anybody have the specs on those handy so I can get a couple from the hardware store? If not, I'll pull one out and check thread pitch/diameter/length... not a big deal!
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Well, I installed the short ram yesterday, and had to tweak the MAF hole on one side a bit for it to fit. Five seconds with a dremel, nothing worse.

While I am waiting for the 2.5-2.75 coupler and BOV flange to arrive, I was hoping to install most of the kit in advance... I noticed I am supposed to re-use the TMIC mounting bolts. Anybody have the specs on those handy so I can get a couple from the hardware store? If not, I'll pull one out and check thread pitch/diameter/length... not a big deal!
Use the TMIC bolt where?
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Use the TMIC bolt where?
Reading the instructions, it says to use the 2 bolts 'retained from step "remove factory intercooler"' to secure the FMIC... I haven't started anything yet so just going by the doc on their site.
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Old 01-05-2006, 11:24 AM   #74
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Reading the instructions, it says to use the 2 bolts 'retained from step "remove factory intercooler"' to secure the FMIC... I haven't started anything yet so just going by the doc on their site.
Oh, I didn't get any instructions, or see a need for any bolts, except for the new radiator catch can to mount it.
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Old 01-05-2006, 01:15 PM   #75
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They want you to use the intercooler bracket bolts in the top of the core where that one rectangle with the threaded holes is welded on.
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