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Old 12-31-2005, 12:01 AM   #1
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Default Eg33 Rs

The old RS engine was tired and beat. We had an SVX that was tired and beat but the engine was still good. What we Frankensteined is what we are calling the EG33 RS. I wasn't expecting much from the swap but it turns out to be a good thing. It is a blast to drive and is now being used as one of our road course cars. Dynapack Dyno number are 210whp and 212 wtq. We are trying to install an old supercharger that has been resting on the shelf for a while to bump those numbers up.

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Old 12-31-2005, 01:25 AM   #2
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Damn, that engine is clean enough to eat off of...

Nice choice of powerplant. Love the pontiac-style functional ram air system. Did you convert to a MAP system? Don't see an MAf anywhere in that pic?

How does the extra weight from the EG33 affect the overall balance of the car in the twisty stuff? Any 1/4 runs - whether it be with a g-tech or at the dragstrip?

Great work! Nice super clean install!!!!
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Old 12-31-2005, 01:28 AM   #3
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Btw, get that blower installed asap! S/C EG33 FTW!!!
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:11 AM   #4
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Did you achieve 210 awhp with just the equal-length headers and ram air system alone - or did you do any camshaft work? If you did the cams, what were the specs you went with?
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:45 PM   #5
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There is no mass air meter because we are using the Autronic Stand Alone.

The extra weight from the motor actually helps keep the front wheels planted and provide more grip coming out of the turn in the twisties. We only went to road course track events with the RS so I don't have any 1/4 times to show.

We are using the stock EG33 cams, outside the motor the power mods we have is just the headers and ram air box.
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Old 12-31-2005, 03:06 PM   #6
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Sounds like you've come up with a solid n/a package. If you can please post more pics!!!
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Old 12-31-2005, 03:15 PM   #7
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Old 12-31-2005, 03:35 PM   #8
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Excellent work. I love it.!!!

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Old 12-31-2005, 06:12 PM   #9
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How about the coil packs? What are you running?
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Old 12-31-2005, 06:52 PM   #10
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OMG, I posted this in the conversion forum for you... Its insane!


We need 1/4 times, and a video to hear what it sounds like!!!
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Old 12-31-2005, 07:46 PM   #11
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what kind of tranny are you using?
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Old 01-01-2006, 01:26 PM   #12
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So, how much will you charge to do this modification to mere mortals like ourselves?

And yes, 1/4 mile times....will you be doing more modifications, etc. I LOVE this type of engine swap. NICE!


OMG!!!! Look at the header on this car.
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Old 01-01-2006, 02:09 PM   #13
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Hey, I'm wondering if the exhaust note gets real raspy between 3000 and 4000 rpm.

Also, how did you get to 212 whp on essentially a stock motor? I'm sure where were some gains to be had with the headers, ignition, and standalone ECU, but I wouldn't have thought it would be that much. Was there any porting and polishing done? Are you running the factory knock sensors? Is the ECU reading both knock sensors?

Lastly, if you are looking for a few more HP, Chike has worked out a nice intake cam profile. A little more lift, a little more duration, and the lobe center is retarded by about 7 deg. A few people are running it, and the butt dyno impression is around 20 HP with peak power moved up to higher rpm.
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Old 01-01-2006, 02:33 PM   #14
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Lastly, if you are looking for a few more HP, Chike has worked out a nice intake cam profile. A little more lift, a little more duration, and the lobe center is retarded by about 7 deg. A few people are running it, and the butt dyno impression is around 20 HP with peak power moved up to higher rpm.
One other thing I'll add is that TomsSVX5mt (post #8 in this thread) installed these modifed intake cams in his former ebony 5spd SVX and picked up close to 5mph in trap speed in the 1/4 mile (91.5mph -> 96.3mph). I also can't claim credit for these cams, as the specs are the brainchild of an australian member on the www.subaru-svx.net forum (oab_au).

You can read up more on the cams here:

http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/show...t=29671&page=2

Kevin Thomas will also soon be the owner of my SVX with these cams and he'll be doing some dyno runs and racing it in '06...
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Old 01-01-2006, 06:24 PM   #15
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sweet deal ..
212 WHP..
my guesses
A: it got a manual tranny
b: the stock svx exhaust setup blows
c: yes EM makes that much difference
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Old 01-01-2006, 06:37 PM   #16
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my guesses
A: it got a manual tranny
b: the stock svx exhaust setup blows
c: yes EM makes that much difference
In response to your guesses:

a) It has a 5speed manual trans (in the link XX Tuning provided you can see the underside of the car in a pic showing the equal length headers - clearly a manual trans and definitely a 5spd due to its smaller size).

b) The stock SVX exhaust is quite efficient, however, gains can definitely be picked up with well designed equal length headers...

c) EM will definitely produce sweet gains especially when the car is dyno-tuned!
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Old 01-01-2006, 07:43 PM   #17
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sweet deal ..
212 WHP..
my guesses
A: it got a manual tranny
b: the stock svx exhaust setup blows
c: yes EM makes that much difference
Dont forget that intake.
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Old 01-01-2006, 11:00 PM   #18
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Dammit, I almost had a chance of keeping up with you guys at CART, I'll forget those dreams now!
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Old 01-02-2006, 09:03 AM   #19
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That's one sweet swap. I'm so glad to see that you're taking it to road course events. Which club do you do most of your events with? I also saw pictures at the CART lot in Bristol. What is on there suspension wise?

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Interesting choice dude looks great!
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Old 01-02-2006, 07:26 PM   #21
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Thanks for all the comments everyone. I'll try to answer all the questions at once.

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How about the coil packs? What are you running?
6 MSD Blaster SS Coils

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OMG, I posted this in the conversion forum for you... Its insane!
We need 1/4 times, and a video to hear what it sounds like!!!
Thanks for the post. I wish we had some 1/4 runs to post but we never had the chance yet, just been doing the road course events. It might be a while before we have some 1/4 runs with the RS because the next time we head up to the drag strip its going to be with our yellow WRX.

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WRX 5-Speed

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So, how much will you charge to do this modification to mere mortals like ourselves?

And yes, 1/4 mile times....will you be doing more modifications, etc. I LOVE this type of engine swap. NICE!
Very hard to come up with a solid number ($$) on the build. There was a lot of custom work and tuning that went into it.

Next project with the RS is to build a roll cage and we are in the planning stage of installing a supercharger.

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Hey, I'm wondering if the exhaust note gets real raspy between 3000 and 4000 rpm.
Very loud and raspy starting at 3700 rpm.


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Also, how did you get to 212 whp on essentially a stock motor? I'm sure where were some gains to be had with the headers, ignition, and standalone ECU, but I wouldn't have thought it would be that much. Was there any porting and polishing done? Are you running the factory knock sensors? Is the ECU reading both knock sensors?
For power mods, just the headers, airbox, and standalone ECU. No P&P, no knock sensors, no mass air meters, and no 02 sensor.

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Dammit, I almost had a chance of keeping up with you guys at CART, I'll forget those dreams now!
Hey its all about who is the better driver not the power. The RS was only a second behind me in my STi on the Pocono East Course. So you still have a chance Bry, see you at the next CART event.


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That's one sweet swap. I'm so glad to see that you're taking it to road course events. Which club do you do most of your events with? I also saw pictures at the CART lot in Bristol. What is on there suspension wise?
We mostly participate in the CART and PDA events but we also ran with EMRA, BMW Club, and Chin Motorsports. We have run the RS at Pocono, Watkins Glen, Lime Rock, and Virginia International Speedway. We are looking into participating in the One Lap of America next season.

For suspension we are using DMS 40mm Coilovers.
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Forgive my ignorance but how is the standalone reading what the car is doing?

Amazing work.

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Old 01-02-2006, 07:54 PM   #23
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Basically the standalone ecu works off an internal map sensor, trottle position, rpm, and coolant temp.
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autronic should have a setup for a subaru crank sensor fwiw there is an autronic on ebay w/4 coils for $700
kinda suprised no o2 sensor .. but i guess its not a street car no need to go into closed loop

guess since it a road race car not a drag/auto-x the higher gear ratio is a good idea

awesome work

would love to see some video
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Any interest in getting performance intake cams as described in posts #13 & #14????
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