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Old 01-02-2006, 09:34 PM   #1
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I am looking at purchasing these tires for my STI. are they worth it?
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Old 01-02-2006, 09:42 PM   #2
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For a winter set? To replace your re-70s for year round tires? Obviously you need something better than the stock tires to handle snow, but no matter how good these all seasons are, they won't be near as good as your super summer tires.
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Old 01-02-2006, 09:55 PM   #3
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I just got them for my WRX. Very nice, smooth ride, quiet, handles fine. As above, depends on your needs. For regular daily use year-round, it's a great choice. It might be nice to have dedicated ultra-performance summer tires but if you need to have just one set, this would be a good choice.
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Old 01-02-2006, 09:57 PM   #4
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I have them on two cars. They are a good all around tire. They are good for daily driving, good in the rain, and good in light snow. They are quiet and wear well. They are not going to perform as well as your oem tires on dry pavement and not that great in anything more than a couple of inches of snow.
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Old 01-02-2006, 11:12 PM   #5
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They should be just fine for Maryland - if you were in a snowier state, I would say get some snow tires, but for Maryland, a decent all season should work just fine.
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Old 01-03-2006, 12:28 AM   #6
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I use them for my "winter" set, and they see occasional trips in the snow (245/40 on 17x8.5 wheels). They're not a "snow" tire, but are adequate provided you do your part. Good grip in rain, good grip in dry--though not as good as the RE070s.

Very good overall ride quality, and quieter than the RE070s or Pirelli PZero System Asimmetricos.

Worth it? Yes.
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Old 01-03-2006, 02:28 AM   #7
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I wonder how these would compare to Avon 550 A/S. Anyone experienced both of these?
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Old 01-03-2006, 08:04 AM   #8
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I have them on two cars. They are a good all around tire. They are good for daily driving, good in the rain, and good in light snow. They are quiet and wear well. They are not going to perform as well as your oem tires on dry pavement and not that great in anything more than a couple of inches of snow.
That pretty much says it.

I have 215/45-17 Neros on my RS in spring through fall, just installed them last April.
Very nice tires indeed. Not as grippy as my old Dunlop SP9000s were on 16"s, but that's to be expected of course.

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Old 01-03-2006, 12:37 PM   #9
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+1 for the Nero's. Great all around tire. Wears well and is quiet. I'll buy them again.
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Old 01-03-2006, 12:46 PM   #10
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I purchased these as my winter tires for my '05 STi, haven't seen snow yet, but I'm happy with the tires so far. They break loose quite easy, transition well, are better in the rain than I expected, and are very quiet.
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Old 01-04-2006, 05:39 PM   #11
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+1 for the Nero's. Great all around tire. Wears well and is quiet. I'll buy them again.
.....I'm already on my 2nd set. Good all year tire for my situation.
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Old 01-04-2006, 06:14 PM   #12
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+1 for the P-Zeros
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Old 01-04-2006, 06:29 PM   #13
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I wonder how these would compare to Avon 550 A/S. Anyone experienced both of these?
Search some other threads. The m550 a/s seems to be giving the Pirelli's a run for the money. People seem to like both, but are fond of whichever of the 2 they have. From what I've read, the Avon's MIGHT be better in snow, but the Pirelli's a little better handling tire.

It doesn't seem like you could go wrong with either.
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Old 01-04-2006, 07:16 PM   #14
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Search some other threads. The m550 a/s seems to be giving the Pirelli's a run for the money. People seem to like both, but are fond of whichever of the 2 they have. From what I've read, the Avon's MIGHT be better in snow, but the Pirelli's a little better handling tire.

It doesn't seem like you could go wrong with either.

+1 Same thing I heard about Avons being slightly better in snow and Pirelli's being slighty better in dry conditions.
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Old 01-04-2006, 09:16 PM   #15
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i just got my Avons a few weeks ago and the following week went up to mammoth...encountered every snowy condition..Mud, slush, wet & dry, rain etc.....they tracked great, pulled out of anything i threw at it. I found a few parking lots with 8-10 inches, and threw it around like nobodys business! ..not the best on Ice though...but hey, nothing is with the exception of studded ice tires...Save yourself some money....my 235/45/zr17's were 99 a tire from tirerack....you wont be dissapointed
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Old 01-04-2006, 09:48 PM   #16
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I was completely impressed with the reviews on the Avons from Tire Rack. I'm completely impressed with Avon's on motorcycles. I was torn between the Avon's and the Pirelli's and I chose the Pirelli's in large part from the positive comments on this site.

I'd love to hear more experiences as I think they are a real contender in the all-season world.
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Old 03-02-2006, 11:45 PM   #17
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My STi is based in Missouri where it's springtime weather can be
80 degrees and sunny on the way home, then dark and below freezing
the next morning.

Occasional dusting of snow or icy patches.



In these conditions, I'm very happy with the P Zero Nero M+S.
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Old 03-03-2006, 10:44 AM   #18
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The Pirelli's are decent in the dry and rain, but horrendous compared to other all-season tires I have tried in the snow. If you are in a snow belt state, pick something different for snow, otherwise they will be ok. I previously had Dunlop SP sport 5000's and they were lightyears better in the snow. I just returned my Pirelli's because I got the Suby stuck in the snow for the first time (twice in one day) and I was sliding through intersections which was not cool!
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The Pirelli's are decent in the dry and rain, but horrendous compared to other all-season tires I have tried in the snow. If you are in a snow belt state, pick something different for snow, otherwise they will be ok. I previously had Dunlop SP sport 5000's and they were lightyears better in the snow. I just returned my Pirelli's because I got the Suby stuck in the snow for the first time (twice in one day) and I was sliding through intersections which was not cool!

They definitely have more of a summer bias for an A/S tire, but here in the South, I find them to be the perfect all-around tire.
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Old 03-03-2006, 12:09 PM   #20
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+1 for Missouri!
+1 for PZero Nero's (in all but deep snow)!
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i will have to recomend , ven with my limited use of nokian WR tyres have been very good in the snow.
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Old 04-02-2006, 05:31 PM   #22
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what tire pressure do you recommend for the spring/summer for the neros?
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Old 04-03-2006, 10:29 AM   #23
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I am looking at these also. I don't want to have to switch tires all the time and for a daily driver you need a tire that can handle anything.
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Old 04-03-2006, 11:08 AM   #24
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+1 for PZero Nero's (in all but deep snow)!
Actually I had no problems driving in deep snow with the Pzero Neros, I was driving in about 6-9 inches of snow with them, however deep it was my stock front bumper was dragging through the snow (stock height) but the tires did fine, even going up hill.

Dry performance was pretty bad
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