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Old 07-20-2000, 09:42 AM   #1
Nigel
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Question Test Mode Connector

I just bought my first Subaru less than two months ago; a '94 Legacy Turbo. I love it, but recently the Check Engine light has occasionaly stayed on after starting the car, and not gone off. It has also come on while driving the car. According to the Haynes manual, if you disconnect the green test mode connector under the steering column and turn the key to the on position, you can see if any codes are stored. I discovered that this connector is already disconnected on my car. If I reconnect the connector, the light starts flashing when I drive the car, but it stays off if I just start the car and let it idle. Is the connector supposed to be connected or disconnected, and is this the correct proceedure for checking codes? Oh yeah, there are no obvious symptoms when the light comes on. Any ideas?

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Old 07-20-2000, 01:42 PM   #2
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Nigel, check this site out to learn how to recover the trouble codes. http://members.xoom.com/legacyturbo/tips.html
As for what it could be, my guess would be the CPC solenoid( not really a big deal but should be changed if bad, no real driveability problems), or the water temp sensor. The water temp sensor usually starts causing starting problems and the fans may also be running when the car is cold. Usually doesn't cause driveability problems though. Could also be the O2 sensor(among many other things) but that's not quite as common as the other two. Good luck.
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Old 07-20-2000, 02:00 PM   #3
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Fantastic!

I knew that information had to be out there somewhere. Haynes is not particularly useful when it comes to troubleshooting electronic issues, and their instructions were way off on this one. O2 sensor is brand new, and my fuel economy has been excellent (for a turbo) so far - 20+mpg city 27 hyw, so that's probably not it. I'm not familiar with the CPC Solenoid, so I'll have to look that up.

Thanks Shik!

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Old 07-20-2000, 03:46 PM   #4
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For those that are curious, I followed the instructions at:
http://members.xoom.com/legacyturbo/tips.html

... and got Code 35 - Purge control solenoid valve. I gather this is the CPC solenoid that you refered to Shik? Now I just have to find out where this thing is! Any hints? I'm going to start searching the archives.

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Old 07-20-2000, 04:32 PM   #5
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Nigel, good to hear you got on with it OK. Yes it is the CPC solenoid( Canister Purge Control). That is the solenoid that lets fuel vapor flow into( or out of) the charcol canister( may not be the exact definition but it gives you an idea).

If memory serves me correct, it is under the right side intake runners and has two vacumn lines running into it. It's also brown and black in color I think. It can be a bitch to get out but shouldn't be to bad.

I have heard of some people just cleaning them out with carb spray or the like, resetting the computer and having them work again for a while due to them getting built up with carbon deposits, however I have no experience with "fixing" an old CPC solenoid. Now "fixing" a bad water temp sensor is a different story . Glad the forum helped.
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Old 07-20-2000, 11:03 PM   #6
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Hi Nigel, my name is Ben, I also live in Markham Ont. I have a 92 silver Legacy turbo with WRX intercooler and boost control!
I have at valve replace when I got my legacy 2 years ago, and I took it to Hing Lee motor in Downtown and they do a good job too. If you bring your car to them , find Conway in parts and tell him Ben Send you and He will give you a special discount!
BTW, what colou of your car? and what did you done on your car?
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Old 07-21-2000, 04:26 AM   #7
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Thanks guys! I'll see if I can track this thing down over the weekend and try cleaning it out. If that's a no go then I'll try Hing Lee like you suggested Ben.

To answer your question Ben, my Legacy is Silver and having only had it for two months, I've not really had a chance to do anything with it. I have ordered an intake from JC Sports, but they're bloody slow in getting it to me. I want to do more, but right now I'm trying to finish restoring my '73 Datsun 240Z, and that's eating all my funds right now. So, I'm just enjoying my Legacy as is, which is nothing to complain about because this car is in mint condition. It's only got 100,000km (60,000 miles) and was carefully maintained by the PO. I'd love to see this intercooler setup you have, Ben. Is there any kind of club for Legacy owners in TO?

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Old 07-21-2000, 05:03 PM   #8
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Nigel, just a bit of info on JC's intake. Personally, I felt very little difference when I put my intake on( not a JC BTW), compared to when I had the K&N drop-in filter without the silencer. If you have exhaust work done and you have a cold air tube running to the intake, then you might notice some difference but if you plan on keeping the basically stock for a while, I don't think the intake is worth it. Especially if it's JC's "economy" intake or whatever they called it. It is nothing more then a few pipes and connectors that he picked up at Home Depot(at least the one I saw). Take Ben's advice and just do the K&N drop-in filter.
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Old 07-22-2000, 12:07 AM   #9
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Hi Nigel, as long as I put the K&N filter to replace the factory one, it did gain power if you take out the silancer from the fander it will give you a differnt sound when you step on the gas padel too!!
I just join the 2.5rs club in Toronto and they sometime have some meeting but I'm the only Legacy turbo to show up!!
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Old 07-22-2000, 12:28 AM   #10
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Well, perhaps I'll join the RS club then. Do they have regular meetings? I was just looking at their web site and the only thing I could find was info on their Shannonville event in August.

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