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Old 04-26-2008, 10:55 PM   #101
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Might want to add saab 92x for 2 years they were made to be complete. They are imprezas but have slightly different weight.
I don't have access to SAAB FSM's
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Old 04-28-2008, 10:33 PM   #102
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Update again! Added some 87 and 88 info, plus re-organized the old school information to make it more clear...
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:06 PM   #103
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Another update...

Added '72 non FF-1 models, 73 and 79 models.

Note: I found a FSM stash, i'll be making updates more frequently for awhile

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Old 05-01-2008, 10:53 PM   #104
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Updated more 70's+80's info (87 XT models, all 84 models, couple other things) had to do some formatting too in order to fit things...
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:56 AM   #105
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Traditionally, curb weights include spare and tools and full fluids. I don't know how Subaru does it though.
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Thats probably what it is then.
I think these have to be dry, empty weights. My '05 WRX weighs 3066lbs when stripped down for autocross with a nearly empty tank of gas. There is no way it only weighs 3085 with the spare tire, jack, floor mats, stock driver's seat, stock struts, stock wheels, and stock brakes put back into it.

And the '96 Impreza Brighton coupe I'm turning into a rally car started life at 2900 lbs BEFORE it was stripped of all its unnecessary parts. It might weigh 2700lbs fully stripped with a cage in it when finished.


I think we need clarification as to what these weights really are, but its nice to see them all readily available now. Well done sir!
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:18 AM   #106
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I think we need clarification as to what these weights really are
Curb weights per SOA FSM's

There is no other proper source for this information to create an accurate comparison between models and years, unless you want to do it by GVW weight...
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Old 05-03-2008, 01:17 AM   #107
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curb_weight
Read several definitions, all say it's gassed up and ready to go with no driver or passengers, though some makers and organizations have slight variations, such as with a driver, or with a given number of gallons of gas rather than a full tank. Close enough though.
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Old 05-03-2008, 02:02 AM   #108
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Updated with 88 stats and started the 1990-1994 Loyale section

I'll also be adding Justy's next week, perhaps putting the XT in a separate section as well.
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Old 05-03-2008, 02:32 AM   #109
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where can i find out where to go locally to weigh my car? i have no clue how that works at all...thanks in advance.
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Old 05-03-2008, 09:40 PM   #110
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where can i find out where to go locally to weigh my car? i have no clue how that works at all...thanks in advance.
Find a local vendor on here who has scales and/or does corner weighting.
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Old 05-03-2008, 09:46 PM   #111
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WOW MY BUGEYE WEIGHS LESS THAN ANY STI EVER PRODUCED!!

take that!!!, sti owners...hahahaha

+1 for the bugeye community...
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Old 05-04-2008, 02:14 AM   #112
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WOW MY BUGEYE WEIGHS LESS THAN ANY STI EVER PRODUCED!!

take that!!!, sti owners...hahahaha

+1 for the bugeye community...
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Old 05-04-2008, 02:23 AM   #113
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3075 lbs for bugeye isn't too bad
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Old 05-04-2008, 01:20 PM   #114
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WOW MY BUGEYE WEIGHS LESS THAN ANY STI EVER PRODUCED!!

take that!!!, sti owners...hahahaha

+1 for the bugeye community...
The increase in weight in every model year is usually because of safety enhancements.

This car: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Torino

Had a curb weight less than your bugeye, in some trims.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:02 PM   #115
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The increase in weight in every model year is usually because of safety enhancements.
No, the weight increase on the "bugeye" IE 02 WRX vs. an 04+ STI is not due to chassis weight, it is ONLY due to equipment (IE heavier 6-speed transmission, heavier brakes, heavier rear differential and axles, heavier wheels and tires, etc.).

The chassis itself is essentially identical from 02-07.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:03 PM   #116
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Sweet. My wagon's lighter than an sti
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Old 05-05-2008, 11:44 PM   #117
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Added '83 old school stats and the Justy... Ill be adding more Justy years soon too
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:17 PM   #118
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Thought this would be a sticky by now...
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:49 AM   #119
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Updated again! More Justy specs and new XT section (separated from the "old school" stats)

I think thats all I have for now minus some potential early model Legacy changes...
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No, the weight increase on the "bugeye" IE 02 WRX vs. an 04+ STI is not due to chassis weight, it is ONLY due to equipment (IE heavier 6-speed transmission, heavier brakes, heavier rear differential and axles, heavier wheels and tires, etc.).

The chassis itself is essentially identical from 02-07.
Notice "usually".

Besides, heavier brakes could constitute a safety enhancement, yes?

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Old 05-07-2008, 09:22 PM   #121
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Besides, heavier brakes could constitute a safety enhancement, yes?

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Active safety yes, passive safety no.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:45 PM   #122
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Updated 90-93 Legacy numbers (note: missed a page with AWD sedan info, will fill in the blanks tommorow)
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I posted this on the wikiNASIOC... Kosta, feel free to take it down if you don't want it there. Does anyone know how to better format it?

If you know how to format it better... great!


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I've been trying to streamline the format as I go, but its not exactly an exact science...
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