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Old 01-20-2006, 01:51 PM   #76
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The problem with the speedo cable is that in the RHD car the tach is on the left (closer to the tranny). If you put it in on the left-hand side it would be on the far-from-the-tranny side. It would require the speedo cable to cross over the tranny and then go a little farther to get to the gauge. The clutch cylinder will not swap right over--on the LHD car it goes to the left into the unoccupied corner, RHD is the mirror image. If you tried to put the RHD clutch cylinder on a LHD car it would start running into stuff.
Didn't know that. Then again I just kept all my RS stuff... How about the brake cylinder? That one would work, right?
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Old 01-20-2006, 02:03 PM   #77
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LHD hydro pedal boxes are NOT a dime a dozen. if for some reason they are near you, i will take 2. seriously.

they only shipped on 98+ 2.5 liter 5mt's.

the mechanical reasons to swap to RHD were explained by supermoose back in the OG of things, makes sense right?
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Old 01-20-2006, 02:04 PM   #78
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the brake master cylinders on LHD and RHD are "compatible" but they have lines routed on differnt sides.

the clutch MC can be made to work, but it will require shortening the shaft ~ 2.2" and getting a custom line bent or made.
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Old 01-20-2006, 02:33 PM   #79
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My opinion:

K.I.S.S.

Course, that's just my opinion.
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Old 01-20-2006, 02:36 PM   #80
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If you go RHD during a swap, it's one thing and makes some sense. But it appears that a large amount of people just do it for the sake of having a RHD car. They think it's cool for some reason.
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Old 01-20-2006, 02:42 PM   #81
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I am with Power on this one. RHD is for peps in Japan and honda ricer wanabes in the states. If it doesnt make your car handle better, go faster, or stop better then its rice and will get no respect from me

Swapstar I am impressed with your knowledge of swaps, Why the noob member number, where have you been man?
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Old 01-20-2006, 02:51 PM   #82
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The problem with the speedo cable is that in the RHD car the tach is on the left (closer to the tranny). If you put it in on the left-hand side it would be on the far-from-the-tranny side. It would require the speedo cable to cross over the tranny and then go a little farther to get to the gauge. The clutch cylinder will not swap right over--on the LHD car it goes to the left into the unoccupied corner, RHD is the mirror image. If you tried to put the RHD clutch cylinder on a LHD car it would start running into stuff.
Very true. I drove my car w/o a working speedo for the first couple weeks after my swap was done until I could source a LHD speedo cable. It's longer so it can reach to the other side of the tranny.
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Old 01-20-2006, 02:53 PM   #83
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tweakling, u wanan post your dyno charts? im courious to see.

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Old 01-20-2006, 04:04 PM   #84
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call me a ricer one time you dirty bastards... and i'll freak! i'm going RHD for simplicity! it'll take way less time to swap by myself. and i need to drive, my daily driver is already sold(2 months before swap is delivered)!
someone said toll booths. never crossed my mind, this is gonna suck! but fortunately this is the only downside i've found so far with the actual driving RHD in LHD land. so not a huge prob. just got to get creative(or carry a passanger forever). -keith
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Old 01-20-2006, 04:25 PM   #85
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I figure you can get one of those shark-heads-on-a-steeck with which you can reach out and grab your ticket.
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Old 01-20-2006, 04:31 PM   #86
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haha. or eazy pass is your friend.

my swapability is gained from wandering around HKS and zerosports in asia. rock the spot.

we were doing JUN 2.65 strokers with flip manis and 6mt when they were 6K each.
2001 at HKS was a 580 wheel car. beat that usdm tuners.....
JDM to the core man.
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Old 01-20-2006, 04:51 PM   #87
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call me a ricer one time you dirty bastards... and i'll freak! i'm going RHD for simplicity! it'll take way less time to swap by myself. and i need to drive, my daily driver is already sold(2 months before swap is delivered)!
someone said toll booths. never crossed my mind, this is gonna suck! but fortunately this is the only downside i've found so far with the actual driving RHD in LHD land. so not a huge prob. just got to get creative(or carry a passanger forever). -keith
We have EZ-Pass all along the east coast from VA on up. No need to stop for tolls.
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Old 01-20-2006, 05:57 PM   #88
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call me a ricer one time you dirty bastards... and i'll freak! i'm going RHD for simplicity! it'll take way less time to swap by myself. and i need to drive, my daily driver is already sold(2 months before swap is delivered)!
someone said toll booths. never crossed my mind, this is gonna suck! but fortunately this is the only downside i've found so far with the actual driving RHD in LHD land. so not a huge prob. just got to get creative(or carry a passanger forever). -keith
Simplicity??? YA right, good luck with all the cutting and welding on the fire wall. I hope you have a very complete clip, you need to swap over alot of brackets, tabs and do-hickys, many which are not drilled or have nuts welded. You will need the door cards and door wiring harness if you plan to keep power windows and locks. RHD seats are nice too. You will need to replumb the brake lines. Dont forget the wiper motor that is a real pain.

Care to explain your view of simplicity?
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Old 01-20-2006, 06:16 PM   #89
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I sold my ver7 swapped rs to buy a version 5 car for a swap. I did not do it to impress anyone, I did it for myself. I am a huge fan of the Jdm Sti, it is 10 times better than a usdm car. I just wanted a GC8 Sti, and I wanted it look as close to orriginal as possible, and it does you cant even tell it was a swap. I bought the whole car. Cutting and welding the fire wall is not that hard, nor is welding the brackets, nor is swapping the wiping motor. If your any kind of a mechanic it isnt that hard. It made the wiring real easy since there was no splicing. Ya it took a couple of extra hours to cut and weld brackets, but it wasnt a big deal. I dont understand what everyones problem is here. I am not a "Honda ricer" I have never even owned a Honda. I just wanted a real JDM car, and this is the closest thing to having one. Everyone has modified Rs', I used to have one. So whats wrong with having someting a little different? I think you all should shove your oppinions up your @sses!
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Old 01-20-2006, 06:18 PM   #90
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Whe you're doing a complete swap (not just an engine and tranny) it becomes more an issue of "do I want to put in all the work to make this car LHD?" than "do I want to do a few things to this chasis to make it RHD?"
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Old 01-20-2006, 06:26 PM   #91
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It's a fad... it'll wear off and get old.

It makes you wonder if there are LHD fanatics in Japan, UK, or Australia...

Anyways, lets see some more SWAPS!!
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saying that having a rhd car is a fad and will wear off is wrong. Thatsl ike saying that modifying a lhd car is a fad and will wear off. Whats the difference? Its just having the steering wheel on the other side. the title of this threas is "calling ALL JDM swaps" and rhd is Jdm! So whats the problem?

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Old 01-20-2006, 06:56 PM   #93
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JeremyRS i can see your point of trying to make a 100% correct replica JDM car. If thats what you want and you have the money to pull it of then great. RHD is for you.

You pulled off your swap and thats great but please dont go around hinting that its easier to do a RHD swap then it is to do a LHD swap. That is not the case and you of all people should know it. I am tired of hearing people say they want to do a RHD swap because its easier!
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I said that it makes the wiring easier, not the whole swap. I know that from experience. I said that welding the firewall and brackets wasnt that hard. I never said that doing a full rhd swap was easier than doing a lhd engine swap.
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I must say this thread has gotten way off track. Whether it's better to convert to JDM with LHD or RHD is all a matter of preference and/or opinion. There's nothing significantly superior about either one.

Now, as Kreeger said, LETS SEE SOME MORE SWAPS!!!
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Simplicity??? YA right, good luck with all the cutting and welding on the fire wall. I hope you have a very complete clip, you need to swap over alot of brackets, tabs and do-hickys, many which are not drilled or have nuts welded. You will need the door cards and door wiring harness if you plan to keep power windows and locks. RHD seats are nice too. You will need to replumb the brake lines. Dont forget the wiper motor that is a real pain.

Care to explain your view of simplicity?
-very little wiring(main reason i say simplicity)
-zero welding(pop rivet)
-car isn't power anything
-got new sti seats
-use the RHD brake system entirely! gotta bleed anyway!
-never heard wiper motor issue. no worries!
-less than half the time to swap
-should i go on?

this is simple guys, and pulling the clip off of the complete drivetrain, susp, etc. at once saves time bolt up as one piece also. i've done swaps on cars where it requires wiring as extensive, and i'm over that ****. tired of wiring, and i'm only 25! i'm gonna work smarter not harder! have fun labeling wires everyone else and thanks swapstar for the RHD idea to start with!
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Old 01-21-2006, 11:34 AM   #97
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It costs twice as much to ship a front clip than it does to ship a complete engine with ecu, wiring harness, etc etc... Plus with the front clip you have to figure out what to do with that huge piece of junk you are left with after you gutted the clip for its parts. Not to mention the time it takes to get everything out of the clip.
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Old 01-21-2006, 11:50 AM   #98
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saying that having a rhd car is a fad and will wear off is wrong. Thatsl ike saying that modifying a lhd car is a fad and will wear off. Whats the difference? Its just having the steering wheel on the other side. the title of this threas is "calling ALL JDM swaps" and rhd is Jdm! So whats the problem?

i agree with your statement!!! if i get orders to come back to the states from japan, i will bring my car with, find another GC8 in the states and do a full conversion!! i don't see anything wrong with it.
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-never heard wiper motor issue. no worries!
There is an issue with the wipers--if you want them to work properly for RHD, you have to reverse where the motor is and where the wipers are anchored.
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[quote=kheff46-less than half the time to swap
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You are crazy if you think a RHD swap will take half the time. It will take twice the time. I cant wait to see what your pop rivet firewall will look like . In the time it takes you to cut all the new holes and seal the old one, remount all the acc. including the wipers, steering wheel, brake cylinder, clutch cylinder, replumb the brake system, remount all the relays, ecu, wire harness and general junk under the dash I could have done 2 LHD swaps completely rewiring the engine harness.

Good luck man. You are in for a shock
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