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Old 06-12-2001, 08:35 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Who Says Legacy's don't perform!!!

Here's one for all Legacy owners. Notice what type of car my Legacy is racing against.

This was during a Pro-Solo at Mississauga, Ontario Square One Mall. Lots of cars attended. Got almost 1.5 car lengths on him by the first chicane. A picture is worth a thousand words... LOL...



For pictures of the entire event, click hereRX7 Club of Toronto

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Old 06-12-2001, 08:39 PM   #2
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Do I see white rims on that Acura?! Is that a Type R????
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Old 06-12-2001, 08:42 PM   #3
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Yep!!! There are better shot of the Type R on the URL for the RX7 club of Toronto..

I'll save you the pain of paging through all the pages, here is the link to the page where I raced against the Type R...
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...236&f=0&sp=241

And here's a side shot of the same car...



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Old 06-13-2001, 06:05 AM   #4
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On an 80 minute couse, a very good Type R with a very good driver could only squeak out just under .5 sec on me on a long windy course.

Need more HP for the straights!
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Old 06-13-2001, 07:15 AM   #5
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Naaaaice!!!
From the look of the Integra, that's not just the regular one either right? By the look of it, it looks like a Type R. A buddy of mine in Vancouver BC had one, and they are pretty quick.

Joe, is yours stock? It's looks lowered from back here. (as a spectator looking at the monitor)
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Old 06-13-2001, 09:15 AM   #6
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Apexboy,

My Legacy is almost stock,

List of Mods:
Stock Springs and Shocks
Whiteline ALK
Whiteline ALK rear sway bar set at 24 mm.
BFG G-Force KD (street tire) 205-50-17
ADR Ikon 17 x 7 50 offset

UR Underdrive Pulley
Custom Valve adjustment (Butt dyno says, night and day difference in torque, but lumpy on idle)

Not lowered at all... Just squatting from acceleration.
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Old 06-13-2001, 10:59 AM   #7
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I'd be interested in hearing more about the custom valve adjustment. I'm guessing the bumpy idle is due to overlap, which at low engine speeds makes it harder for each stroke to "clear" out the cylinder heads. Like having modded cams.

beautiful car...
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Old 06-13-2001, 11:14 AM   #8
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In my quest to squeeze the most out of my stock engine, I ran into Yoshi of
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Old 06-13-2001, 11:21 AM   #9
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In my quest to squeeze the most out of my stock engine, I ran into Yoshi of Japanese Auto

(Click on the name to get to his web site) We spoke for a while with regards to what I needed accomplished and discussed tons of options.

Finally, during the converstation, he mentioned that sometimes, a valve adjustment is better than a cam job. Through the adjustment of valves, he can either tune the engine for "High End" or "Low End" grunt.

The process that he went through was kinda long. I can't even say what gap he is using for the Intake and Exhaust valves.

It took 2 tries to finally get the desired settings. The first try resulted in mushy low end power, we drew a graph and I explained at where the butt dyno losses were according to RPM.

He took the car back and re-adjusted the valves, and when I got it back, WOW!! is all I could say.

This thing pulls hard from 2500 onwards and kicks in hard at 3500 - 6250, almost like a V-Tec.

Below 2500 it's pretty normal, except that the idle is a little lumpy.

Butt Dyno says 10% improvement at 2500 and a whole bunch more at 3500 - 6250..
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Old 06-13-2001, 02:54 PM   #10
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Great job man... Glad to see the Legacy owners autoXing.. try to create a new image for legacy owners.. hehe... I always see 50+year old people driving Legacys!!

btw, why isn't ur time posted in the results section of that webpage? how was ur time compared to the RSes?
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Old 06-13-2001, 03:16 PM   #11
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The results web page for the Mazda Club is for the Pro-solo and Event 1, My name will be on the Event 2 results page whenever they post it.

I didn't make it to event 1,
Pro-solo, made it pretty far, but I lost to a veteran in a Miata on race rubber.

The Pro-Solo Classifications do not help much either. There are only 4 classes, A, B, C, D.

A= Any stock FWD / AWD / RWD 4 Cyl Car
B= Any Modified FWD / AWD / RWD 4 Cyl Car
C= Any V8 and Turbo Cars
D= Open Wheel Class

So I was grouped with all the Integra's and Modified Civics, Modified Impreza's, Miata's etc. etc.

Event 2, I beat all the Impreza's. The closest 1 was a 2.5 RS with A032. Got him by a couple of hundredths of a second with the Legacy GT. Came in first place in B Class.

My Legacy wore street tires...

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Old 06-13-2001, 03:29 PM   #12
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My little Legacy is doing very well this season with the auto-x club I run with. I run CSP, and I've taken 4th, 2nd, 1st, and 2nd (10th, 5th, 6th, and 7th overall) in the first 4 events of the season. The first event was on my stock struts, the last three events have been with the DMS coil-overs. My mods are:
  • DMS Golds (225/180 springs)
  • 18mm rear bar with Powerflex sway bar bushings
  • Kartboy front and rear sway bar endlink bushings
  • STOCK drivetrain with K&N filter and removed intake silencer
  • STi short throw shift lever
  • 15x7" Raceline RL-7s with 225/50-15 Kumho V700s
At the event last Sunday (Event Results) I was 7th overall behind (1) a trailered B-Prepared C4 Vette, (2) a trailered ITE/E-Mod Mustang, (3) a trailered, race-prepped BMW 2002, (4) a trailered F-Prepared Fiero, (5) an amazingly well-driven C-Stock Fiero, and (6) a Porsche 914 (my CSP nemesis ). I'm pretty sure that the two cars ahead of me that aren't trailered also aren't daily drivers, and they sure as hell can't carry 4 people in comfort, nor are they trying to move 3250# with only 120hp or so to the wheels.

Of course, with all that said, I really would be interested to know how I would do with the same modifications on a 2.5RS. With 300 fewer pounds to haul around, I'd bet I'd be fighting for FTD - I was only off by a bit more than a second this time on a 40-45sec course.

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Old 06-13-2001, 04:43 PM   #13
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Yup! Legacys do rule, even when driven by 50+ year olds like myself! Probably been driving Legs longer (since Feb 91) than some of you have been driving!! So, don't assume that just 'cuz you see some grey hair that the driver behind the wheel of this Legacy won't take you on in the next set of twisties!!

All in fun youngsters and no offense taken Prostho!

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Old 06-13-2001, 07:02 PM   #14
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Hehehe... I wouldn't consider u a 50+ year old when u are enjoying ur legacy through the twisties!!! U are young in ur heart!!!

Great job Joe.. show the 2.5RSes ur Legacy taillight and optional rear wing!

Also, Do u know where i could get the specs on offsets on ADR rims on the web? i've only seen the RS2000 on the Imprezas, but ur Legacy is the first time i've seen the Ikon and they look very very nice! very well suited to the car.

O ya, by any chance would u be able to remember how the White Swift GT did? was he in ur class? Other than Subarus, i also like Swifts too..
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Old 06-13-2001, 07:30 PM   #15
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Prostho,

I did lots of research and test fitting of wheels before I got this one. Thanks for the compliment...

This wheel is +50 Offset 17X7
http://www.contemporarymotorsport.co...wheels/adr.htm

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Old 06-13-2001, 07:33 PM   #16
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Thanks Joe... any idea how much ur 17x7 weight?
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Old 06-13-2001, 08:03 PM   #17
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Prostho,

They weigh around 20 lbs. Not light, but strong.

The Swift GT has lots of potential, but the driver never made a clean run during the Pro Solo.

During Event 2 of the Mazda Club the average time was 46 Sec, FTD was 40 Sec. and the Swift GT was in the 50 Sec range. The owner of the Swift gutted the interior and put solid mounts on the tranny and engine. Talk about loud & brutal. He was running with "R" compound tires as wel, A032's I think.

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Old 06-13-2001, 08:24 PM   #18
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Ic.. cool.. thanks for the info man!!!!

So what was ur time?

btw, do u have ICQ?
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Old 06-13-2001, 08:39 PM   #19
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Fastest time = 44.385 My GT
2nd Place in B = 44.5?? Impreza 2.5 RS A032
3rd Place in B = 44.7?? Honda CRX w/ A032

No ICQ, but MSN Messenger and Netmeeting you can contact me by MSN Messenger by searching for jtrin@hotmail.com
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Old 06-13-2001, 08:46 PM   #20
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Coool.. nice times!! Big 4 door sedan once again beat down on the smaller cars. hehe.. LEGACY RULES!
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Old 06-14-2001, 12:14 AM   #21
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Oh how I wish you had 0-60 and 1/4 mile times for before and after on this mod.

I too am very interested. What did it cost you to have this done??

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Old 06-14-2001, 12:50 AM   #22
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For the SOHC heads with screw type tappet adjusters, it cost me $350 CDN. Not the cheepest, but quite the difference... If I had known about this technique before I got the UD pulley, this is a better bang for the buck IMHO...

If you have the DOHC, it is a little more difficult because of the bucket and shims.
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Old 06-14-2001, 06:00 AM   #23
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Joe, very interested in the valve job... if you pay $350 for sohc, can I assume C$500 for dohc?? cheaper than cam+installation and hopefully, get similar results where's my money.... got to save up.

what other side effect beside lumpy idle? gas mileage? noise?

later..

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Old 06-14-2001, 08:00 AM   #24
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Hey Pat, why CSP instead of STS?

SM is HARD! PAX scores are brutal too.

Utah has one of the most competitive and largest STS contingents in the US, and the SM field has been over 10 three times this year.

I ended up taking 7th of 11 in SM and 54 of 104 overall in PAX scoring.
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Old 06-14-2001, 01:50 PM   #25
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I run with a local, non-SCCA club. We use SCCA rules for the most part, with a few exceptions (they don't care what wheels you run in Stock classes, for instance). We don't run any of the Street Mod/Street Touring stuff, nor do we PAX the times. Compared to the New England Region SCCA events, our events are tiny - 75 cars max, compared to 180-sumthin at the one NER event I went to - so it just isn't worth it to run the "special" classes.

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