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Old 01-12-2006, 04:26 AM   #1
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Default OT: Test drove B200 turbo

Just want to share my impression..

Car was equiped with bi-xeon, leather, and paronoma roof, cvt automatic..

Power: Pretty good power for city and highway driving, can't feel the turbo lag at all because it's so smooth. The accel pedal is light, like a japanese car. No more of that heavy pedal feel, which is good to some, bad to others. I fall in the latter group. The heavy pedal feel is very "mercedes" imo, it separates me from driving a german import and a jap import.

Brakes: Very good. The car is light with little under 1300kg.

Transmission: Again, smooth. I can't feel the gear change, I guess this is the trend that everything needs to be smooth. Personally, I like it raw and violent like my wrx, I know I don't sound very civilized.. =)

Control: Suspension setup has very good ride quality with good control when needed. Did some hard right and left turns and the car seem very well-planted. Very comfortable.

Interior: Very roomy, no complaints both as a front and rear passenger, only thing is the driver sits too high. I cannot see the hood at all. Very friendly controls as expected, nice leather, etc, but the steering wheel is way too soft. I mean literally it is soft, it's too light of a feeling, but what do you expect for a sport tourer right? i tried the new ML steering too, same feeling, they say it's the new design, softness. Again, i like heavy steering feel, but not to the point with no power steering.

Exterior: I think it looks good. Some will say it's like a mini van, etc. I say it's different. Sure the new yaris looks kinda like it. But believe me, there is no comparison here. Coming from a sedan world, the B-class is truely something exciting to me.

Overall: Smooth, quiet, elegant, just like a mercedes, what do you expect?

The C-class has been out for too long, so I didn't bother testing that. Moving from 1 c-class to another is really nothing to be excited about. So I think that's out of the equation. Now I gotta try the Lexus IS.
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Old 01-12-2006, 05:06 AM   #2
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my sis was thinking to buy the B class too,
but the B200 turbo costs 34,000, and i'd rather pay 1500 to get a WRX, but i guess my sis won't need that much power anyways.
have you tested the non-turbo version? i wonder how gutless it will be... (130 HP....)
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Old 01-12-2006, 02:08 PM   #3
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B200 turbo can cost way more than a wrx if you keep adding options.

No I didn't try the non-turbo as it turned me away. There are big differences in terms of appearance, chrome trims, sideskirts, steelies, etc. If you add all those to make the non-turbo look good, might as well go for the turbo.
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Old 01-12-2006, 03:07 PM   #4
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very well phrased and detailed review but i couldnt disagree more wiht most of it, PLEASE TELL ME YOURE JOKING...

I had a B200 Turbo for a day, and i was extremely disappointed. I really felt like i was driving a Suzuki. At low speed you think youre fine, but as soon as you press the pedal the engine sounds rough, put it through a corner and the car leans like the tower of pizza. I was expecting alot more pep too, not to mention that it feels like the steering wheel is not connected to anything.
If it was priced at 18-24 maaaybeee i would say its worth it. I really thought it was a pile of crap, and perhaps if i only drove it for 20 mins, i might not have hated it so much, but by the end of the day i was ready to let it go.

There were a couple plus points for me, like interior room, its quite unbelievable how small the car is on the outside andhow big the inside is. Quality of materials were good, nice leather/plastics etc.
only at low speeds did it feel comfortable like a MB should.

i drove the B200 again at the MB test drive event and i felt the same, crappy. the ML500 on the other hand, i was very very impressed with.
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Old 01-12-2006, 03:56 PM   #5
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You think that's bad. I'm in an 06 E55 right now. The build quality is actually not too shabby, and the body seems pretty stiff. BUT.......

I've got some major gripes. First, the steering. It just sucks. Completely devoid of feeling. They say it's speed sensitive, but sensitive it is not. You can't feel a damn thing. In fact, I could twiddle the car around with just my pinky finger on the wheel!

The suspension (Airmatic), is fine for what it is. It's a sedan that weighs over 4,000 pounds. You can't expect to throw it into a corner and not lean. The sport setting is fine too. The dampers work as advertised. It does clunk a bit though on uneven surfaces.

Second, the brakes. They really suck. Again, you don't feel a damn thing. It's impossible to modulate. Whenever ABS does kick in, you don't feel it in the pedal, nor do you feel it in the steering wheel. The only clue you get is by listening to the pulses. By then, you're already out of shape.

The plus side of things is that the torque is endless. I can slice and dice pretty good in the city, but only if it's not wet or damp out. If it's either, I can't get the power down evenly. The brakes too, are pretty good in terms of stopping power (they're 8 pistons), and fade is hard to get (the computer compensates for it, but then, once the fluid boils, you're screwed). The exhaust note is awesome too. JikJak can attest to that I suppose
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Old 01-12-2006, 04:24 PM   #6
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I got a C230 as a courtesy car today since my mom's ML is in the shop and the difference is NIGHT and DAY!

It's so much more responsive than the ML, brakes, acceleration, EVERYTHING. It's everything I hoped that a Mercedes was before I was disappointed by the ML. The suspension is well dampened, leans very little in the corners but keeps the ride very comfortable.

I like how the brakes are setup on the C-Class. I do get feedback, maybe I'm just weird and the steering is decently sharp as well.

Lastly, I love how whisper quiet the cabin is, even on the highway. For the ML, to go highway speeds tend to lend to a lot of wind noise, especially if you opt for the ski-rack rails to be installed, which cannot be taken out very easily once installed. I hit 140km/h and the car was still stable and felt it can go higher easily.

Though the engine does become audible around 2,750 - 3,000RPM+. Though that can be because I have the 1.8L Kompressor engine, with a bigger engine, I'd assume the revs would be much lower.
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Old 01-12-2006, 06:01 PM   #7
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You think that's bad. I'm in an 06 E55 right now.

see heres the thing, people pay these insane amounts of money for these nice cars like the E55 but at the end of the day, they will never be perfect.. no matter what the magazines say, no matter how it looks in the ads, you really have to drive it for some time to realize what you like... or more importantly dont like... I personally would go for an M5, but i havent driven either so i wouldnt really know...

I am sure youre being hard on the E55, and i am sure that the car is pretty sick, but if i had just dropped a bucket load of money, i would be fairly pissed..

But i just dont know how MB can get away with a car like the B200T at the price they want for it, just ridiculous. I think the C230 kompressor is way better value...

edit: this post almost deserves an "/rant" at the end
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Old 01-13-2006, 04:56 AM   #8
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the C-class has way better steering feel.. it still uses the "old" style.. it's only the very new ones that are starting to use the soft steering wheel..
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