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Old 01-12-2006, 12:16 PM   #1
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After living with the B9 for a while my wife said she probably needs to get use to it but two things were bothering her a little. The b-pillar on the drivers side gives here a blind spot when pulling into the passing lane and it's harder to see out the back when pulling out of the garage or other parking spots (compared to here outback anyway)

I've fixed the b-pillar blind spot by putting a hot spot mirror on her outside rear view. She like that a lot and thought it helped considerably. She even called me while on her way to work saying how happy she was with it (which is unusual) So now I'm thinking about installing one of those back up sensor systems. I don't know a lot about them and was wondering if anyone else had experience with either installing or using one. I've looked around on the net and there seem to be a few types. I really don't feel like drilling holes in the bumper to put the buttons. But I may if I find the right system. I took a quick look at the rear last night and there are a few places I can put the stick on type of sensors that will not be too conspicuous. Anyway, still deciding if I want to do it, she's luke warm about the idea anyway. Just looking for any input people may have to offer.

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Old 01-12-2006, 01:13 PM   #2
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Sharing some info for the problem.

If you want primarily a parking aid:
1 Grote $275, CR Best Buy
2 EchoMaster $275, CR Best Buy
3 Rostra $350

All three are sensor models. The Grote (1) is the most sensitive model we tested. It installs on the license-plate bracket and requires no drilling into the vehicle, so it is recommended for leased cars. The EchoMaster (2) wasn’t quite as sensitive. It is the only model we tested whose visual alert is optional. (The others had both audible and visual alerts.) The pricier Rostra (3) was the only higher-rated model not affected by inclement weather.


BTW I have the spot mirror on all of my cars, prefer rectangles to circles myself.
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Old 01-12-2006, 01:52 PM   #3
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Thanks for the info I will definatly look into those. I used the rectangle too, I think they tend to work a little better and take up less roon on the mirror.
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Old 01-12-2006, 02:38 PM   #4
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We used to have a vendor that installed the Echo-master. Only installed a few, but everyone liked it. Never had an issue
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Old 01-13-2006, 09:45 AM   #5
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After much searching and looking under the car I think the ROSS system is most likely to be the best bet. It can be mounted behind the plastic bumper and shoot through it w/o doing any cutting or drilling. If you look under there I can see that the metal bumper beam is a nice flat mounting spot. The trick is going to be finding the back up lights wiring harness inside the rear cargo area. The lights themselves are in the hatch which complicates things a little over a normal install. I have a Service Manual on the way so that should help.

Details here:

http://www.rostra.com/rostra-obstacle.htm

I'll update this thread as things progress
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Old 01-17-2006, 09:07 AM   #6
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Cool; I might get this for my WRX (only around $220 for some reason)
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Old 01-17-2006, 09:42 AM   #7
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I was able to get the ROSS for just under 200 plus shipping, I did also order the LED extension cable because I think I may need it due to the way I plan to install the system. I'm not 100% sure I'll use it but didn't want to be stuck doing the install and have to wait for one.

a few more links on the ROSS here:

http://store.yahoo.com/sports-imports/unmibeorunbu.html

http://autodax.com/products/backupsens/ross.htm

This is where I placed the order:

http://www.brandondist.com/rostra_prices.htm

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Old 01-19-2006, 03:57 PM   #8
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Cool beans Brown Santa has dropped off the ROSS kit. I should be busy this weekend installing it
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Old 01-19-2006, 10:37 PM   #9
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Got the box in the mail today. I have to say I was happy to see the cost was actually less than the website had it listed. I think it was just under 175 USD, I got the extension to the LED for 7 something and the total was 191 shipped, not bad. I can't wait to get started but I'm gonna have to. I'll most likely do it on Saturday. Here are some pics I took for the page when it.







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Old 01-22-2006, 12:59 AM   #10
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Installed everything today, the good news is it works well and is not all that hard to do. The bad news is I didn't take any pics while I was doing it because most of the time I needed both hands. I will try to do an after the fact page though.

It was not that bad. I mounted the sensors and black module using the automotive grade 3M double sided tape to the metal bumper beam. (same stuff they use to hold door strips on with) I did have to trim a little bit of the Styrofoam so the end of the sensor could be past the metal. I had to drop the spare and remove that for room to work. Under the floor inside I removed the hatch and foamish tray. There are a few knock outs to use for the wire pass through so that was simple. I had to pull off trim on the right (that was a bugger) so I could mount the buzzer and LED's. I put the buzzer behind the far back seats seat belt winder and ran the LED up the trim to behind the rear dome light. You really can't see anything when all is said and done, not even the LED's unless they are lit. Worked out nicely. Funky thing is when it's in operation it sets off my RADAR detector Must be the microwaves.
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One thing I forgot to mention. When I pulled part of the very right rear panel off, I could see part of the subwoofer. It was not all that easy to see but it appears to be a round 6 or 8" cone in a plastic ported enclosure. If you look at the grill you can see a large and small opening. Just thought I'd throw that out there. I think the stereo is fair, not as nice as the McIntosh we had in the OB though.
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I agree on the stereo, it is missing something as compared to my 03 GT. I'm not sure what.
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I agree on the stereo, it is missing something as compared to my 03 GT. I'm not sure what.
Depth I think.
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put up a page:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?p=21119

Not my best work but did the best I could. I still need to reread it for errors but I'm sleepy. I will double check it tomorrow.
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Depth I think.
I don't know what depth is, but I sounds right.
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