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Old 01-12-2006, 12:41 PM   #1
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Default ANyone have a negative opinion of G-Force / GForce helmets ?

Hello, everyone.

I'm in the market for a helmet for AutoX this year, and it seems that my best choice is likely to be one of the hybrid ones. As far as I can tell, this pretty much means buying one from G-Force or Bell.

I have been in touch with a local vendor who carries Bell, but not G-Force, and he was telling me that he doesn't carry the G-Force line because the SFI have seen too many poor quality issues with them. I've been doing searches all week long on different sites/forums, and have yet to find anyone with anything bad to say about G-Force's products.

I know Bell's reputation is good, but the G-Force alternative is $90 cheaper. I'm not trying to be cheap here, as helmets are an extremely important safety item. But if the G-Force truly is good enough, I'd rather spend the $90 elsewhere.

Please don't start any other debates on the relative merits of open face v full face v hybrid helmets, or M rated v SA rated. I'm just trying to find out if G-Force are a good, reliable product after all.

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Old 01-12-2006, 12:58 PM   #2
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I have a G-Force helmet that I got about 5 years ago just for autocrossing and rallycrossing and whatnot. It's still in decent shape, but the lining has started to come loose. It's not a big deal, I still consider it safe, but if I were going to using it very regularly for longer periods of time (road racing, track days, etc.), I might have spent a little more.
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Old 01-12-2006, 01:26 PM   #3
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I use a Bell M2 Pro, wifey uses a G-Force and has never complained about it. The G-force looks fine, interior is holding up as well as my Bell. You need to find a helmet that fits, a comfortable fit is more important to me than brand loyalty.
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Old 01-12-2006, 01:26 PM   #4
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I have a G-Force for autox purposes and it works just fine.
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Old 01-12-2006, 03:20 PM   #5
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I had their older SA2000 helmet, the liner croaked after about 4.5 years of hard use. Pretty decent if you ask me, I got their newer SA2005-rated Pro Force 1, the interior looks more durable.
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Old 01-12-2006, 04:05 PM   #6
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Not sure on their helmets, but I have their 545 "Euro" bling style racing suit. Its really nicely made and I preferred it over any of the "entry level" more expensive Sparco suits.

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Old 01-12-2006, 10:57 PM   #7
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OMP makes nice stuff. if you can find it you might want to check out their turismo 4.
http://www.ompracing.it/detail.html?productcode=SC710
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:56 PM   #8
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I just got G-Force's latest entry level track helmet (SA2005) from soloracer.com. Fits nice and comfortable and build quality is very nice for $220 helmet.
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For a nicely priced alternative look at the Pyrotect helmets. They are made by Bell.
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Old 01-13-2006, 01:24 AM   #10
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we use a lot of G-force stuff for our stuff...no complaints
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Old 01-13-2006, 01:59 AM   #11
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What's the point of you guys saying you have no problem with GForce (which I also have) if you never been in an accident while wearing it? I could wear a pot when I track and it'll look good as new after 5 years, doesn't mean its a good helmet
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Old 01-13-2006, 08:16 AM   #12
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For a nicely priced alternative look at the Pyrotect helmets. They are made by Bell.
Yeah, I was originally looking at a Pyrotect open face helmet, but they don't have a hybrid offering.

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Old 01-13-2006, 08:51 AM   #13
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What's the point of you guys saying you have no problem with GForce (which I also have) if you never been in an accident while wearing it? I could wear a pot when I track and it'll look good as new after 5 years, doesn't mean its a good helmet
If the pot is comfortable and SA2000 or SA2005 approved.. go for it.
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Old 01-13-2006, 09:51 AM   #14
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I own 1 and the woman also has a G-Force.

The lining is tearing after about 35 events on mine, but that's just due to heavy use. Her's is fine after 10 events.

Since we've never been in a crash, how would we know if they're good in that respect?
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Old 01-13-2006, 09:53 AM   #15
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isn't that the point of Snell 2005?


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What's the point of you guys saying you have no problem with GForce (which I also have) if you never been in an accident while wearing it? I could wear a pot when I track and it'll look good as new after 5 years, doesn't mean its a good helmet
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Well there are helmets that barely meet the requirement, and some that exceed the requirement. I'd rather have something that hasn't just barely made it.
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Quote:
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Yeah, I was originally looking at a Pyrotect open face helmet, but they don't have a hybrid offering.

Stuart.
Why the need for a Hybrid style helmet? Might as well get one with a shield, and just flip it up if you don't use it. Its there if you need it though, like for karting. I'm realy happy with the SA05 Pyrotect full face I got from soloracer.com. Nice thing about it is the removeable liner, which I haven't seen on any helmets at this price point (about $250).
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Also, if you raise your pricerange, this is an EXCELLENT helmet. Both Miranda and I use it and everyone that has had it, has loved it.

http://www.impactraceproducts.com/item.wws?sku=14000508

Here is a great review on honda-tech
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1433905

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Old 01-13-2006, 02:25 PM   #19
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What's the point of you guys saying you have no problem with GForce (which I also have) if you never been in an accident while wearing it? I could wear a pot when I track and it'll look good as new after 5 years, doesn't mean its a good helmet
Even if you are in an accident and survive it doesn't mean it's a good helmet. Accidents are highly uncontrolled environments to be doing product evaluations in. Until you either get the Snell testing data or someone does an independent verification in a controlled environment true helmet quality is all speculation.

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Old 01-13-2006, 02:30 PM   #20
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I've had my G Force hybrid for 2.5 years, done a ton of autocross, a bunch of rallying, and its held up well. My liner is still in good shape - thats where I've seen the first signs of wear on other helmets.
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Well there are helmets that barely meet the requirement, and some that exceed the requirement. I'd rather have something that hasn't just barely made it.
When it comes to Snell ratings, I think you _do_ want something that barely meets it, or doesn't meet it. The Snell tests use high drop heights on their test rig, and there is substantial concern that this leads to helmets which are too stiff and actually transfer more energy than a softer helmet would in crashes less severe than the crash demonstrated on the rig (which is in the 99% percentile of crashes for mc helmets). Point being, a Snell rating isn't some clear indication of quality.

The GForce helmets look ok to me, though they seem pretty heavy. I wouldn't prefer one for day-in, day-out use, but for the occasional autocross or rallycross, I suppose they'd be ok.

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They are good stuff, but I wish they have a more expensive light weight line up.
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Old 01-18-2006, 10:47 AM   #23
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OK, so it sounds like the GForce helmets are an acceptable choice, which is pretty much what I thought.

That OMP one looks very sweet, especially with the visor that retracts up into the peak. Unfortunately, I think it's a bit beyond my price range.

I have found local suppliers for both the Bell and GForce helmets, so I'll go and try on both and see which one fits best.

Thanks everyone,
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