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Old 01-12-2006, 03:40 PM   #1
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Luke,

In terms of wheels most people are looking for standard fitment. I think tirerack has done a great job of providing fitment information for Subaru owners.

In my case I am looking for a racing fitment in which you would only be using for autocross or the track.

Would The Tire Rack ever consider having an STi/WRX (STi to clear the Brembo's) come in for fitment testing to see which of the wider rim's would fit the STi? The reason I am asking is that there are a large group of autoXers that would really like to know what the tirerack has to offer for special cases. Have you ever considered doing fitment for wheels in the 9"+ width range with appropriate bolt patterns for our Subies? I know there are cross fitment applications with the Mitsu EVO that fit the 2005 STi and it's hard not being able to see offsets on your .com website to decide on fitment.

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Old 01-12-2006, 04:14 PM   #2
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subscribed in this. i would really like to know this also. my question though, are you planning on spring rate to save you from rubbing? or are you going to try with springs, and not rub. (i believe you have coilovers though )
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Old 01-12-2006, 06:39 PM   #3
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Spring rates and fender modification, street prepared class for AutoX w/SCCA

my rear fenders are rolled and pulled and I have about 1" more clearance.

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Old 01-15-2006, 01:07 AM   #4
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Old 01-15-2006, 09:52 PM   #5
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Subscribed.

Maybe we could come up with a general idea of what kind of tire/wheel/suspension combo most of us are tryin to fit.

To start, im trying to fit 255/40 RA-1's on a 17x8.5 wheel. Offset yet to be decided but im guessing its going to be between +50 and +48. My suspension is JDM pink springs on the stock struts.
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:00 PM   #6
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I would find it very successful if tirerack could add a section to their website listing all sizes/bolt patterns/offsets (which have never been on tirerack IIRC) so that we could choose a selection without having to pester Luke all the time when we are trying to find a custom fitment. A lot of wheels for the Mitsu EVO's will fit the 05 STi's for racing purposes with better suspension setups etc....

The only reason I push this topic is that I enjoy buying from the tirerack and have bought multiple sets of wheels and tires from them and continue to do so...

This year may be the first that I have to buy wheels from another source without a lot of customer service or a large name behind them like the tirerack.

I am looking for 17" wheels with 9.5-10.5 widths that could be used on my suby. I can find wheels in the size I want on tirerack by looking up other cars to find out if the size is offerered but without an offset there isn't even a way if I could guess if it would fit.

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Old 01-15-2006, 11:03 PM   #7
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Subscribed wholeheartedly. This speaks my sediments exactly.

I'm looking for a wider tire for road driving schools... pretty sure I'm going with a 17x8.5 wheel w/ +48ET, 255/40/17 Toyo RA1. Seems like about 80% of posts support this setup without rubbing on a 05 STi (stock springs, but would like pinks soon).

I there was a way to test fitment before purchasing, I would definitly go with a wider wheel/tire.

I'd pay more to have the fitment tested - I'd even drive to the tirerack location in Indiana!
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Old 01-16-2006, 01:26 PM   #8
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while I wouldn't be opposed to doing a couple of test fits if somebody wants to bring their car in for the project.

Although we really do not need to do that ....

we have a 3-D drawing of all of the fitment areas for almost all cars, which we have produced inhouse, and we have the same type of drawing for wheels we carry and we can overlay the wheel drawing onto the car drawing to determine what works and what doesn't
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Old 01-16-2006, 02:53 PM   #9
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that's awesome..save some work..

but I second the idea of a page that lists wheel sizes/bolt patterns/offset for each model of wheel...maybe have to go through 3 pages of disclaimers not making tirerack liable if you buy a wheel that doesn't fit...
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:38 PM   #10
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while I wouldn't be opposed to doing a couple of test fits if somebody wants to bring their car in for the project.

Although we really do not need to do that ....

we have a 3-D drawing of all of the fitment areas for almost all cars, which we have produced inhouse, and we have the same type of drawing for wheels we carry and we can overlay the wheel drawing onto the car drawing to determine what works and what doesn't
Luke, thanks for the response, I was just thinking it would be a way to save you from having to do the work multiple times if the fitment has never been checked. Maybe we could use this thread for those of us looking for a particular fitment.

In honesty I am looking for a rim from the tire rack because I have had good tire-rack experiences.

Where would you need a car to go to check some fitments? I am particularily interested in seeing what you would have to fit my car.

Luke - there are many sources to find out which rims are out there and their different offsets. Is it safe to say that tirerack can source the wheels if the size exists and tirerack sells the brand?
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if we sell them we already have the drawings (we made them)
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:58 PM   #12
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Ok...so maybe we could use this thread to list what options we are looking into, and whether or not they fit into your drawings. Obviously the person would have to know enough about their tire size vs. their respective offset to get a good fit. I would assume it would also be at my risk to order a rim that has not been "tirerack" approved.
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Old 01-16-2006, 07:46 PM   #13
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Crystal and Luke, I like where this is going! Lets make this happen. Let us know what you will need to make this list (wheel size, offset, tire size, etc)!
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Old 01-16-2006, 09:31 PM   #14
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Once thing people should take car in noting is that "most" meaning "90%" of all wheels over 8.5" wide on an impreza (GD non-wagon) require some fender modification.

I don't want Luke having to deal with complaints from people not realizing that these applications are mostly for racing use if Luke looks into it and thinks they will work.

Justin

More to follow - I am going to try to put together a list of rim sizes and approximate offsets that would work through the tirerack and it will take a bit to put the list together. And then we'll see what luke can do, and we can thank him for it by buying said wheels from Luke@Tirerack

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Old 01-17-2006, 10:04 AM   #15
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Crystal,
If you want to PM me the format in which you are going to submit stuff to Luke then I will help you out. I know there are alot of wheels on tirerack.
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Old 01-17-2006, 10:14 AM   #16
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There is already a thread in the Motorsports forum discussing wider tires (255's and up) and the required rims sizes. Once you have a general size that will fit you can search the rims to see what works.
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Old 01-17-2006, 10:51 AM   #17
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But without knowing the offset's available from the tirerack, that's what has made it hard for me. I have to look up other cars to see the other sizes and prices.
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That's when you call a sales rep and ask them. You would accomplish your task much quicker that way.
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Old 01-17-2006, 11:29 AM   #19
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Luke is a sales rep and it would be much easier to look over a list. I know that it would bother me to repeatedly field the same request over and over again when it can be found on the website.

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"You would accomplish your task much quicker that way"
I could, but I was trying to contribute to the community.

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Old 01-18-2006, 11:20 AM   #20
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For most fitment issues, you can find posts both ways - for good fitment and issues. Thats why a service that put on the specific tire/wheel combo onto your car *before* purchase would be useful. I've called tirerack sales before to ask about fitment for combos not listed on their website - they are not willing to say anything else fits; But I have a feeling this is being overly conservative, and these combos might fit OK if tested.
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I have and will continue to investigate specifc wheel sizes and tire possibilities for any application ..... that's one of the reasons Nick wants me here ..... ask Tom Hoppe or Luke Russel
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lol....luke you have a point, I was just trying to make an easy way, as I felt I would be bothering you way too much. Maybe I can put a PM in here with a description of what I am looking to do to see if you can help me in my quest.

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Ok, let me try one...

I have 05 Sti, stock suspension. Looking for a wider tire/wheel for road courses...

The setup I was thinking about is:

5 ZIGEN PRO RACER GN+ 17x8.5 ET_48
Toyo RA1 255/40/17


I know tirerack doesn't carry toyo, but I'd like to hear any tirerack options similar to this setup, with a wider 17" wheel and a r-compound intermediate tire (in the 255 area)...

Thanks!
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I used 255's (R-comp victoracers from the tire rack) no issues and there is a wide tire talk thread in the motorsports forum, there is more information there than you can shake a stick at, lol

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=845228
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Yeah, I've been following that thread - I just wanted to see what tirerack could suggest that they believe would fit. I'd consider switching to R-comp victoracers from the tire rack if they could suggest a wheel/tire package at 255 wide that would fit based on their analysis...
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