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Old 01-13-2006, 01:13 AM   #1
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I have a question about Motegi Trak lites and whether or not they'll fit on a 2002 WRX sedan.

I found that there's a 17x7in wheel available with a 5/100 bolt pattern and a +42 offset.

There's also a 17x8in wheel available with a 5/100 bolt pattern and a +45 offset.

Will either of these wheels fit? In a fitment guide on a website it didn't list the WRX and on ebay it didn't list the WRX.

I was looking into Enkei RPF1's and these seem like a great alternative - they're actually lighter and around the same price and arguabley look better. I haven't seen any of these on a WRX before or any for sales so it makes me believe that they probably don't fit, someone please fill me in.
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Old 01-13-2006, 01:50 AM   #2
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17x7 I'd say no. You don't want that low of an offset.

17x8 is better, but I'd still say no. Its not the ideal offset for the size rim for our cars. But many have run it without problems.
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Ideal offset being... +48 - + 52?


What are the implications of running this non ideal off +45 offset?
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Old 01-13-2006, 02:53 PM   #4
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Ideal offset being... +48 - + 52?


What are the implications of running this non ideal off +45 offset?

Its said that lower than ideal offsets can cause bearing faliure. Not to metion effect the handling of the car.
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Old 01-13-2006, 11:41 PM   #5
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I was looking into Enkei RPF1's and these seem like a great alternative - they're actually lighter and around the same price and arguabley look better. I haven't seen any of these on a WRX before or any for sales so it makes me believe that they probably don't fit, someone please fill me in.
It would be a cold day in Hell when I chose Motegi over Enkei

I don't know if the Rpf1's will fit but I would choose them if they did
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Old 01-13-2006, 11:55 PM   #6
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It would be a cold day in Hell when I chose Motegi over Enkei

I don't know if the Rpf1's will fit but I would choose them if they did

RPF1's fit. They're heavier, uglier, and more expensive, but they are the proper offset.
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Old 01-14-2006, 12:16 AM   #7
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what is the build quality on Motegis anyway?
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Old 01-14-2006, 12:57 PM   #8
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what is the build quality on Motegis anyway?
They're forged, unlike the Enkie RPF1's that are only cast. The Trak Lites should be stronger but the offset is a little off.


Does anyone know how the +45 offset will effect the car? I see someone selling a +33 offset for 5zigens in the forums and he says that 5zigen says that offset will fit the WRX/STi and clear brembos.

I don't need my wheels to clear brembos, I just want the best handling setup.
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a +45 is just fine for a 17x8
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just out of curiousity where are you planning on getting these Traklites from?










please don't say Sears
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Old 01-14-2006, 04:14 PM   #11
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please don't say Sears

...you think that Sears carries a $1000 set of rims that are forged and weigh around 14.5-15lbs? I think you have some serious misconceptions here.

Like I said, lighter, stronger, cheaper, and better looking than the Enkeis. I have nothing against the RPF1's, infact I was seriously considering buying them but someone on a honda board just suggested these.

To get this rim, I'd have to order directly from Motegi for the 17x8 with the +45 offset and it would cost me about $980 delivered to my door.
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Old 01-16-2006, 11:28 PM   #12
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I was looking into Enkei RPF1's and these seem like a great alternative - they're actually lighter and around the same price and arguabley look better. I haven't seen any of these on a WRX before or any for sales so it makes me believe that they probably don't fit, someone please fill me in.
you say they're better looking and lighter and then say they're heavier and uglier? the 17x8 +45 enkeis are fine.they are pretty light too. i would trust enkei over motegi
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Old 01-17-2006, 07:42 AM   #14
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you say they're better looking and lighter and then say they're heavier and uglier? the 17x8 +45 enkeis are fine.they are pretty light too. i would trust enkei over motegi
No, I said the Enkeis are heavier than the motegis are heavier, uglier, and more expensive then I said the motegis are lighter, stronger, better looking, and cheaper.

Unless you have experience with the rim, I don't really want to hear about what you would trust but rather fitment.

Enkei RPF1 in 17x8 - 15.6lbs
Motegi Raing Trak Lites in 17x8 - 14.5 - 15lbs lbs depending on who you ask.
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No, I said the Enkeis are heavier than the motegis are heavier, uglier, and more expensive then I said the motegis are lighter, stronger, better looking, and cheaper.

Unless you have experience with the rim, I don't really want to hear about what you would trust but rather fitment.

Enkei RPF1 in 17x8 - 15.6lbs
Motegi Raing Trak Lites in 17x8 - 14.5 - 15lbs lbs depending on who you ask.
I have had experience with both; I would trust enkei. fitment is better on the enkeis. the motegis, with the 42 offset is pretty low, especially for that width rim. Another rim to look at is the 5zigen fn01rc. 17x8 +48 and around 15lbs as well. Cheaper than both too
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I have had experience with both; I would trust enkei. fitment is better on the enkeis. the motegis, with the 42 offset is pretty low, especially for that width rim. Another rim to look at is the 5zigen fn01rc. 17x8 +48 and around 15lbs as well. Cheaper than both too
Yeah, I'd definately get the 17x8 with the +45 offset if I got the motegi trak lites.

The 5zigen fn01rc is 17lbs in 17x8.

The 5zigen RP02 is $95 in 17x7.5 and 15.2lbs according to edgeracing.com but wheelweights.net has them at a much heavier weight. They're plain and ugly though and in silver

As far as appearances are concerned, I rate the rims like this:

Best looking:
SSR Comps
Motegi Trak Lites
Enkei RPF1/5zigen fn01rc
5zigen RP02

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Yeah, I'd definately get the 17x8 with the +45 offset if I got the motegi trak lites.

The 5zigen fn01rc is light and cheap @ $90 a rim from a select vendor in silver, but I can't figure out if I think they're ugly as hell or not.
wow 90 a rim?!?! for that price, might as well use those as backups. I don't like them, but they are light and cheap
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wow 90 a rim?!?! for that price, might as well use those as backups. I don't like them, but they are light and cheap
I lied, I thought you were talking about Enkei RPO2's.

The 5zigen is listed @ $165 a wheel.
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Did you end-up going with the Motegi 17x8 forged wheels with the 45mm offset? I have a 2002 WRX myself and don't have Brembo brakes to worry about clearance problems. I'm not sure if that was the main issue preventing would be buyers from going with the Traklites or not. 17x8, 45mm offset, 5x100 bolt pattern seem like acceptable specs to me.
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Did you end-up going with the Motegi 17x8 forged wheels with the 45mm offset? I have a 2002 WRX myself and don't have Brembo brakes to worry about clearance problems. I'm not sure if that was the main issue preventing would be buyers from going with the Traklites or not. 17x8, 45mm offset, 5x100 bolt pattern seem like acceptable specs to me.

No, I didn't wind up with the Motegis because I'm a cheap bastard. There's really not many running around in our fitment and to buy them alone would have been around $1100 plus another $500+ for tires and I wasn't looking to spend that much.


For the record, I haven't re-read this thread and its been awhile but through research, I basically found that whoever questioned the +45 offset didn't have any idea what they're talking about.


I did go with 17x8 +45 Enkei RPF1's, and this is the ONLY offset Enkei sells for the 17x8 RPF1's for our cars so it works.

I think people have even gone with +38 offsets, which will throw the wheels out really far but can work.

I'm not sure about the brembo issue. Spacers will help in making almost any rim fit with brembos.
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Got your PM. I've done more research into the Motegi Trak Lites. Motegi states that they will fit the 2002 wrx if one stays with the proper offset. +45 for the 17x8's, 5x100, forged. As far as price goes, I've gotten quotes from $270.00 a wheel (L.A. Direct Tires) to $355.00 per from Les Schwab (tire store chain on the west coast) with 3 or 4 more tire/wheel outlets falling in-between.

The main problem now (4/26) is availability. Each wheel/tire store I contacted, plus Motegi/American Racing directly, stated that the wheel is on "nationwide backorder" with at least a 30 day+ waiting period before they're available for sale.

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Got your PM. I've done more research into the Motegi Trak Lites. Motegi states that they will fit the 2002 wrx if one stays with the proper offset. +45 for the 17x8's, 5x100, forged. As far as price goes, I've gotten quotes from $270.00 a wheel (L.A. Direct Tires) to $355.00 per from Les Schwab (tire store chain on the west coast) with 3 or 4 more tire/wheel outlets falling in-between.

The main problem now (4/26) is availability. Each wheel/tire store I contacted, plus Motegi/American Racing directly, stated that the wheel is on "nationwide backorder" with at least a 30 day+ waiting period before they're available for sale.

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Sucks.

I was quoted my $1100 shipped, directly from Motegi, after I contacted an ebay vendor selling them in 17x7 and I asked if they had 17x8. If 17x7 had the right offset I would jump on those if I were you, but its been awhile and I don't believe it had the correct offset.
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