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Old 12-03-2007, 04:06 PM   #1001
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Just because it keeps coming up in this thread...

You can buy it at..


WRX: http://www.grimmspeed.com/catalog/pr...products_id=76

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http://www.grimmspeed.com/catalog/pr...roducts_id=110

STI version just has an extra qt of Hypoy.
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Old 12-03-2007, 05:04 PM   #1002
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ok...so anybody tried heavyweight shockproof instead?
I feel better shifting feel when the weather is cold like these days..25 degree...
in summer...it was like little slippery..
plz share if anybody tried heavyweight one...
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Old 12-03-2007, 05:27 PM   #1003
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I went to Pepboys and got a bottle of the 80W90 HypoyC, but it was there last one. I also saw Shell SpiraxHD 80W90 next to it. They had the same weights 80W90 and 85W140) as the Castrol, very similar text and descriptions. I suspect they are the same product, with Shell rebadging it. I found a link to a spreadsheet http://www.bizol.de/Docs/bizol-analoga_E.xls on a German oil/lube site which equates the Spirax HD with the HypoyC, as well as several other brands' versions of the same product. If this is to be believed, then the following oils may be equivalent to Castrol HypoyC 80W90. The 80W90 HypoyC isn't on there explicitly, but I'm filling in some blanks and hoping someone with more knowledge of the fluids may be able to conirm/deny.

BP Energear Hypo 80W90
Shell Spirax AX 80W90 or Spirax HD 80W90
Texaco EP-C 80W90
Mobil Mobilube HD80W90
... and a couple more brands I don't recognize, but are probably more popular in other countries...

Anyone that can say what I'm theorizing for sure?
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Old 12-03-2007, 05:45 PM   #1004
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I went to Pepboys and got a bottle of the 80W90 HypoyC, but it was there last one. I also saw Shell SpiraxHD 80W90 next to it. They had the same weights 80W90 and 85W140) as the Castrol, very similar text and descriptions. I suspect they are the same product, with Shell rebadging it. I found a link to a spreadsheet http://www.bizol.de/Docs/bizol-analoga_E.xls on a German oil/lube site which equates the Spirax HD with the HypoyC, as well as several other brands' versions of the same product. If this is to be believed, then the following oils may be equivalent to Castrol HypoyC 80W90. The 80W90 HypoyC isn't on there explicitly, but I'm filling in some blanks and hoping someone with more knowledge of the fluids may be able to conirm/deny.

BP Energear Hypo 80W90
Shell Spirax AX 80W90 or Spirax HD 80W90
Texaco EP-C 80W90
Mobil Mobilube HD80W90
... and a couple more brands I don't recognize, but are probably more popular in other countries...

Anyone that can say what I'm theorizing for sure?
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....these are 'interchangeable' in useage....NOT 're-branded' identical products


Penzoil and Quakerstate are related to Shell.....Castrol is NOT, nor is Mobil
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Old 12-03-2007, 05:55 PM   #1005
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....these are 'interchangeable' in useage....NOT 're-branded' identical products


Penzoil and Quakerstate are related to Shell.....Castrol is NOT, nor is Mobil
Bummer... I was hoping I found something... thanks for clarifying.
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Old 12-03-2007, 06:03 PM   #1006
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Just because it keeps coming up in this thread...

You can buy it at..


WRX: http://www.grimmspeed.com/catalog/pr...products_id=76

Its too bad that the total of cocktail ingredients- $37.99 plus shipping- $15.00 is a total low blow when I just substituted Amalie 80W-90 for the Castrol, and my total cost was about $33. $53 transmission fluid change FTMFL!
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:17 PM   #1007
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I wonder if going to lightweight shockproof would work for you...scotty?
Given the hotter and more humid weather here round the year, I chose the Heavy Shockproof. Maybe during the next change, I should go with the original cocktail concoction and see how it performs.
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:46 PM   #1008
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Given the hotter and more humid weather here round the year, I chose the Heavy Shockproof. Maybe during the next change, I should go with the original cocktail concoction and see how it performs.
...well....I don't know what the weather is like in Singapore....but here where I am in Florida it can easily be 35+C and 90% humidity in the summer after a thunderstorm.....from June through October
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:37 AM   #1009
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...well....I don't know what the weather is like in Singapore....but here where I am in Florida it can easily be 35+C and 90% humidity in the summer after a thunderstorm.....from June through October
Its pretty much like that here all year round.
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:39 PM   #1010
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as strange as this sounds... I want to say my car shifts BETTER when its still cold..

anyone else experience this ?
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:18 PM   #1011
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ok...so anybody tried heavyweight shockproof instead?
I feel better shifting feel when the weather is cold like these days..25 degree...
in summer...it was like little slippery..
plz share if anybody tried heavyweight one...
I'm running the cocktail with the heavyweight instead of the lightweight but it's hard to tell if it's a little rough because my transmission has 260,000+ miles on it or because of the heavyweight. I haven't noticed a difference between hot and cold shifting, but I'd go with the lightweight unless you've got a really worn tranny like me.
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Old 12-04-2007, 10:41 PM   #1012
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I wonder if you could go 1/2 light and 1/2 heavy on the shockproof...
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:26 PM   #1013
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as strange as this sounds... I want to say my car shifts BETTER when its still cold..

anyone else experience this ?
....I have gotten several emails to this affect...
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:42 PM   #1014
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I've been waiting to notice any difference, but none yet. Of course mine's not a wrx and my transmission has about 100kmiles on it.
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:47 PM   #1015
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I've been waiting to notice any difference, but none yet. Of course mine's not a wrx and my transmission has about 100kmiles on it.
...sometimes it is subtle...sometimes not....
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Old 12-05-2007, 08:08 AM   #1016
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I've been waiting to notice any difference, but none yet. Of course mine's not a wrx and my transmission has about 100kmiles on it.
Were you noticing problems with shifting before? It doesn't have to be a WRX to have synchro problems - it's not power related. My tranny had only about 115k on it when it started really sucking. Now, it's got about 150k and has been going strong for quite some time.
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Old 12-05-2007, 01:26 PM   #1017
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Were you noticing problems with shifting before? It doesn't have to be a WRX to have synchro problems - it's not power related. My tranny had only about 115k on it when it started really sucking. Now, it's got about 150k and has been going strong for quite some time.
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Well the things I was hoping would improver were:
-difficulty in going into reverse when parked, sometimes easy, sometimes not
-have to be going 5 to 10 mph to go into first. Not a big deal but it would be cool to be able to drop into first aroun 20 like some others can, especially since my jdm legacy ecu lets me rev to about 6700
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Old 12-05-2007, 06:42 PM   #1018
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-have to be going 5 to 10 mph to go into first. Not a big deal but it would be cool to be able to drop into first aroun 20 like some others can, especially since my jdm legacy ecu lets me rev to about 6700
rev match with double clutch and you will be able to do that.. even at 30mph
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Old 12-05-2007, 08:10 PM   #1019
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rev match with double clutch and you will be able to do that.. even at 30mph
I can already do it by rev matching, I just thought I'd be able to do it with a normal shift.
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Old 12-05-2007, 10:15 PM   #1020
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I can already do it by rev matching, I just thought I'd be able to do it with a normal shift.
....and THAT is something that...after reading so many of these....is an issue.


.....reluctance to manipulate a mechanical device in a manner that proves NOT to be probelmatic......is a problem......and almost always a 'kiddie' problem.

...just my observation from reading this board.....most often related to the 5mt
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Old 12-05-2007, 10:27 PM   #1021
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....and THAT is something that...after reading so many of these....is an issue.


.....reluctance to manipulate a mechanical device in a manner that proves NOT to be probelmatic......is a problem......and almost always a 'kiddie' problem.

...just my observation from reading this board.....most often related to the 5mt
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please elaborate.. since I've only owned one manual subaru, I really don't know what is "typical" of the transmission. I've owned several other manual cars
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Old 12-05-2007, 10:56 PM   #1022
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?

please elaborate.. since I've only owned one manual subaru, I really don't know what is "typical" of the transmission. I've owned several other manual cars
....some cars shift easy into 1st....some don't and WON'T.......drive the car the way IT wants to be driven.....NOT the way YOU think you should be able to drive it and ya gonna be happier at the end of the day....


Ya dig???
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:03 AM   #1023
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....some cars shift easy into 1st....some don't and WON'T.......drive the car the way IT wants to be driven.....NOT the way YOU think you should be able to drive it and ya gonna be happier at the end of the day....


Ya dig???
Word. Good point Scotty. I'm glad I've gone through this thread and am now $uBs[r1b3d.
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:22 AM   #1024
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I am really pleased with the cocktail. I just went to it 1000 miles ago and my still-stock '02 tranny feels brand new. I was running Silkolene for the last 60k (too long, I know), and the synchros were super-grumpy.

I am going to try it out on my '95 L. I have replaced wheel bearings, a half-shaft, and now realized the front diff was acting up all along. In a parking lot making a tight turn will cause the inside wheel to slip as the diff feels like it's been welded. Close to full steering lock causes the vehicle to stop unless you give it gas.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:38 AM   #1025
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That's pretty awful, definitely report back once you've tried it for a few hundred miles.
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