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Old 02-21-2012, 07:26 PM   #2401
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I just added the Andrewtech cocktail and my 07wrx is loving it so far.
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:15 PM   #2402
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have run Andrewtech's mix for 185,000 miles (218,509 miles total on trans)... no issues goes into 1st below 15mph without issue... still shifts like butter.


for those who were curious about longevity.

but do have some decel rattles from light flywheel....cant gave it all
what was the change interval during those 185K?
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:40 PM   #2403
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I've used both uncle Scotty's cocktail and a heavy shock proof version.
The andrewtech mix sounds just as good.
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:26 PM   #2404
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Would it work just as good on RA geared cryo & rem treated gears?
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Old 03-05-2012, 03:25 PM   #2405
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Update on the Andrewtech : checked my fluid level yesterday and noticed it was on the low side so I topped it of with another 8oz of lwsp. I guess this is due to the climbing/coating nature of the lwsp.

I decided to check the level because shifting was starting to feel harder than it did at first, the top off seems to have helped.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:49 PM   #2406
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i have stopped using any but the heavyweight shockproof
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Old 03-07-2012, 03:10 PM   #2407
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i have stopped using any but the heavyweight shockproof
So you ONLY use heavyweight shockproof now? Nothing else in your mixture?
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Old 03-08-2012, 02:49 AM   #2408
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So you ONLY use heavyweight shockproof now? Nothing else in your mixture?
after some research, it has been found that the lightweight shockproof 'wears out' FAR more rapidly than the heavyweight shockproof.....and there is no real reason to use the lightweight......so I dont
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:32 PM   #2409
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after some research, it has been found that the lightweight shockproof 'wears out' FAR more rapidly than the heavyweight shockproof.....and there is no real reason to use the lightweight......so I dont
Ok, so do you use 4.x qts of heavyweight or do you just use heavyweight instead of lightweight along with the 80w90 and syncromesh?
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Old 03-22-2012, 02:37 PM   #2410
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after some research, it has been found that the lightweight shockproof 'wears out' FAR more rapidly than the heavyweight shockproof.....and there is no real reason to use the lightweight......so I dont
does it make any difference in cold weather?
I was running the old cocktail and it's time for a drain/fill... going to be trying the heavyweight this time around.

btw, how often do you change your fluid? My trans was topped off with Extra-S during a clutch job and it's been a while but it still seems to shift fine.
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Old 03-22-2012, 11:29 PM   #2411
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alright, have a few hundred more miles before I'm changing all fluids. just wanted to clear up a few lingering questions I can't seem to find solid answers to. I've read, but couldn't clearly understand fact vs opinion, that certain oils shouldn't be mixed. I'm looking to mix 1qt synchromesh, 1qt shockproof (not lightweight, thanks uncle scotty), and finishing with ~ 2 qts ams oil severe gear. I've seen everything else mixed with shockproof and synchomesh but have only seen amsoil severe gear run by itself. Any thoughts?
My other question involves the remaining 2 qts I'll have left - can I run severe gear in the diff, or anywhere else?
Thanks in advance
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:33 AM   #2412
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Ok, so do you use 4.x qts of heavyweight or do you just use heavyweight instead of lightweight along with the 80w90 and syncromesh?
I still 'mix' my cocktail....im up to v3 now

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after some research, it has been found that the lightweight shockproof 'wears out' FAR more rapidly than the heavyweight shockproof.....and there is no real reason to use the lightweight......so I dont

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does it make any difference in cold weather?
I was running the old cocktail and it's time for a drain/fill... going to be trying the heavyweight this time around.

btw, how often do you change your fluid? My trans was topped off with Extra-S during a clutch job and it's been a while but it still seems to shift fine.
I have no real 'cold weather' experience with my current 'cocktail' using the heavyweight shockproof....nothing below ~25*F....but any mechanical device that requires lubrication will have some cold weather 'resistance' to normal operation until it warms up a bit. My car shifts a bit 'stiff' when the temps are below 35*F...but it only lasts a mile or 3...no big deal to me.

since I went to the heavyweight shockproof, I think 30k miles is doable, where with the v1 'cocktail' using the lightweight shockproof, it was no more than 20k miles.

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alright, have a few hundred more miles before I'm changing all fluids. just wanted to clear up a few lingering questions I can't seem to find solid answers to. I've read, but couldn't clearly understand fact vs opinion, that certain oils shouldn't be mixed. I'm looking to mix 1qt synchromesh, 1qt shockproof (not lightweight, thanks uncle scotty), and finishing with ~ 2 qts ams oil severe gear. I've seen everything else mixed with shockproof and synchomesh but have only seen amsoil severe gear run by itself. Any thoughts?
My other question involves the remaining 2 qts I'll have left - can I run severe gear in the diff, or anywhere else?
Thanks in advance

I have no experience with the amsoil product....some swear by it.
Try it and post your results, mebbe???

I would not recommend mixing the amsoil product with anything.

and if you use it in the rearend, just make sure you get the rearend FULL....and remember....ALWAYS take the upper plug out of the rear diff FIRST!!!
as getting the lower one out and having the lube dump out and not being able to get the upper one out means you cant re-fill it
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:26 AM   #2413
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[quote=Uncle Scotty;36697349]I still 'mix' my cocktail....im up to v3 now


What does V3 consist of now? I wasn't able to get redline in time, will running a qt of pennzoil and the rest of castrol hypo c 80w-90 be a viable option?
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:20 PM   #2414
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If say a person hasn't changed their transmission oil in lets say 60k miles what should I use to flush it before I put the cocktail in?
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:32 PM   #2415
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If say a person hasn't changed their transmission oil in lets say 60k miles what should I use to flush it before I put the cocktail in?
nothing....just drain it and fill it
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:03 PM   #2416
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I found some Valvoline 75w90 (Limited Slip) at Napa yesterday, would that work or should I really be using 80w90 Castrol Hypoy C?
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:16 PM   #2417
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Stock to the formula. Works great for me. I would the castrol at pepboys.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:24 PM   #2418
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I found some Valvoline 75w90 (Limited Slip) at Napa yesterday, would that work or should I really be using 80w90 Castrol Hypoy C?
do NOT use ANYTHING with any 'limited slip' anything in it in the 5mt
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:38 AM   #2419
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do NOT use ANYTHING with any 'limited slip' anything in it in the 5mt
What about the ones that say "conventional and limited slip"?

That's what the places around here have. Actually that's what I see almost everywhere around here. It says you can use it in both types, not just specifically limited slip.

It says that on:
-valvoline (3 different kinds)
-Lucas
-RP
-Mobil 1
-store brand

Or are you just talking about the ones specifically for limited slip? Just curious cause I was reading the bottles while I was at advanced today.

Edit: actually the one store brand 75w90 is the only one that DIDN'T say anything about limited slip. All the other ones do.

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Old 04-03-2012, 11:37 PM   #2420
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Im looking to do the "cocktail" in my 06 2.5i impreza 48k, is it just the T70 or is there another drain plug. I saw a youtube video might have been an STI though showing 2 drain plugs.. any help? Thanks!
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Old 04-04-2012, 12:11 AM   #2421
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There are two plugs on the rear diff. One for drain and one for fill.
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Old 04-04-2012, 12:15 AM   #2422
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I know that I was talking about changing tranny fluid, I know there's a T70 but saw another bolt on a video just wondering if that an STi thing only or if I should look for that on mine
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There's only one bolt on the trans.
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:27 PM   #2424
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Read through every page and found no definite answer can another 80w90 like maybe valvoline be used in place of the castrol hypoc 80w90 or does it have to be the castrol
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Read through every page and found no definite answer can another 80w90 like maybe valvoline be used in place of the castrol hypoc 80w90 or does it have to be the castrol
From what uncle Scotty said anything saying limited slip in it shouldn't be used. So I guess stay away from that just to be safe.

I'm still waiting on his response to whether you can use the ones that say "conventional and limited slip" or not. I don't know why companies would put that on the bottle if it's bad for an MT. Then again the Subaru 5mt is picky.
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