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Old 02-22-2006, 11:23 AM   #51
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Do you guys mix the cocktail outside of the car or just pour one bottle of it in at a time?
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Old 02-22-2006, 07:49 PM   #52
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Do you guys mix the cocktail outside of the car or just pour one bottle of it in at a time?
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Old 02-27-2006, 01:34 PM   #53
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...juust do it....and remember.....do NOT dump 4 qt in the tranny!!!!!!!!

That WILL overfill it---bad juju.

Add ~3.3 - 3.4...drive the car---check....repeat a couple times....make SURE it isn't too much before ya add more.

Add the lube SLOWLY into the dipstick tube or you WILL get more UNDER the car than IN the tranny

...and the rear diff can use GL-5 whatever.....I'd use a syn like M1
Should we pour in the full bottles of shockproof and synchromesh and use the hypoC for "topping off"? Or should we pour them in in equal proportions?

Does overfilling hurt anything or does it just make a mess of your floor?
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Old 02-27-2006, 06:12 PM   #54
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Should we pour in the full bottles of shockproof and synchromesh and use the hypoC for "topping off"? Or should we pour them in in equal proportions?

Does overfilling hurt anything or does it just make a mess of your floor?
Well, if you put 1 quart of each in you are gonna be pretty close to full. Overfilling is definetely not recommended, it might not do damage but will not promote proper operation. In order for your bearings and synchros to perform correctly, stick to the full line on the dipstick.

I did exactly what you said, and it worked very well. It ended up being about 1.2 quarts of hypoyC and a quart of both the others. So it was really only a difference of .2 quarts which is almost equal proportioned
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Old 02-27-2006, 08:01 PM   #55
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After a few hundred miles, this stuff feels pretty good. Felt like it took a few days to "mix," but now I definately feel confident in my choice to go this way.
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Old 02-27-2006, 08:43 PM   #56
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I had to adjust the ingredients as my local selections are limited. No Castrol or Pennzoil 80/90. 75/90 synth choices limited as well.

So... Will be trying Redline Shockproof Light, Pennzoil Synchromesh, and Lucas 80/90 in the transmission. Lucas 75/90 synth in the rear.

Lucas is a popular brand in this part of the country.

I'm anxious to feel the results.
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Old 02-27-2006, 09:46 PM   #57
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Anyone have any experience with this:

Shell MTX Fluid
Product Code: 59419

Shell MTX Fluid is a fully formulated synchromesh transmission fluid (STF) for use in manual transaxle/transmissions. It offers excellent synchronizer performance, oxidation stability, yellow metal compatibility, and low temperature performance. This product will satisfactorily lubricate manual transaxles/manual transmission from 40F to +300F.

It sounds like what we're looking for.
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Old 02-28-2006, 01:49 AM   #58
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I had to adjust the ingredients as my local selections are limited. No Castrol or Pennzoil 80/90. 75/90 synth choices limited as well.

So... Will be trying Redline Shockproof Light, Pennzoil Synchromesh, and Lucas 80/90 in the transmission. Lucas 75/90 synth in the rear.

Lucas is a popular brand in this part of the country.

I'm anxious to feel the results.

...if the Lucas is syn....it may be NFG to use
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Old 02-28-2006, 06:17 PM   #59
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...if the Lucas is syn....it may be NFG to use

No. I made sure the 80/90 is Dino, and it lists hypoid gears for one of its applications. 75/90 synth will be OK in rear diff, right?

Thank you for making sure I don't f-up!!

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Old 02-28-2006, 06:33 PM   #60
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Anyone have any experience with this:

Shell MTX Fluid
Product Code: 59419

Shell MTX Fluid is a fully formulated synchromesh transmission fluid (STF) for use in manual transaxle/transmissions. It offers excellent synchronizer performance, oxidation stability, yellow metal compatibility, and low temperature performance. This product will satisfactorily lubricate manual transaxles/manual transmission from 40F to +300F.

It sounds like what we're looking for.

Nearly word-for-word as the Pennzoil. Except Pennzoil specifically lists GM and Chrysler applications. Interesting, huh??
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Old 02-28-2006, 08:00 PM   #61
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No. I made sure the 80/90 is Dino, and it lists hypoid gears for one of its applications. 75/90 synth will be OK in rear diff, right?

Thank you for making sure I don't f-up!!
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:26 AM   #62
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Ok Uncle Scotty, what if I found 1 bottle of the Redline, 1 of the Pennzoil, and after searching every store even close to my house, only 1 of the Castrol? Is there something I can top it off with? Or should I not use the Castrol and try something else for the 2 bottles instead?? Please help as my cars been draining all day and I want to fill it tomorrow afternoon!! Thanks...
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:36 AM   #63
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I poured Scotty's cocktail into my 115k mile MY91 Legacy turbo about 500 miles ago. Not a dramatic improvement. I was hoping that my sketchy 3rd. gear synchro would be smoothed out, but it still requires patience and attention. I used:

1qt. Redline Lightweight Shockproof
1qt. Pennzoil Synchromesh
~ 1.7qt. Castrol 80W90 Hypoid

I'll post again if I have further information to add.
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Old 03-01-2006, 04:10 AM   #64
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Ok Uncle Scotty, what if I found 1 bottle of the Redline, 1 of the Pennzoil, and after searching every store even close to my house, only 1 of the Castrol? Is there something I can top it off with? Or should I not use the Castrol and try something else for the 2 bottles instead?? Please help as my cars been draining all day and I want to fill it tomorrow afternoon!! Thanks...

....add the rest of either other ingedient, whichever is cheaper or more available.

exact ratios aren't really important
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Old 03-01-2006, 04:11 AM   #65
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I poured Scotty's cocktail into my 115k mile MY91 Legacy turbo about 500 miles ago. Not a dramatic improvement. I was hoping that my sketchy 3rd. gear synchro would be smoothed out, but it still requires patience and attention. I used:

1qt. Redline Lightweight Shockproof
1qt. Pennzoil Synchromesh
~ 1.7qt. Castrol 80W90 Hypoid

I'll post again if I have further information to add.

I hope it gets better for ya....but if it is abused or worn out, nothing but a re-build will really fix it.
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Old 03-01-2006, 11:16 PM   #66
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I've been trying to track down all of these indredients with no luck. Is there an online source from where they can all be had?

Thanks!
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:28 AM   #67
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I've been trying to track down all of these indredients with no luck. Is there an online source from where they can all be had?

Thanks!

google is yer friend
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:32 AM   #68
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Google is my best friend; I've been googling the bejesus outta it. I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and order from multiple vendors.

Thanks again Scotty!
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:44 AM   #69
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Google is my best friend; I've been googling the bejesus outta it. I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and order from multiple vendors.

Thanks again Scotty!
CVR Motorsports, a great vendor on this site has redline products. They're out of stock until next week but if you can wait, I highly suggest buying from CVR Motorsports and picking the rest up locally or through google/ebay.

I've only bought my carbon fiber hood from Chris @ CVR, but I'm already putting the finishing touches on buying a big package from him that includes the redline fluids I need for this cocktail.

He's the cheapest price and best service that I've ever encountered online.

Hope that helped.
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Old 03-02-2006, 07:01 PM   #70
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I've been trying to track down all of these indredients with no luck. Is there an online source from where they can all be had?

Thanks!

They might not have all of the items, but Summit Racing Equipment and Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies deal in Redline and other brands. Summit even included a hat and some neat-o stickers! That's at least 10 hp! Whoo hoo!!!
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Old 03-02-2006, 07:08 PM   #71
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Hey Scotty, i just tried your out the cocktail in my car on monday..

Another satisfied test subject! My tranny issues are gone!

You rock
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Old 03-02-2006, 10:34 PM   #72
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Hey Scotty, i just tried your out the cocktail in my car on monday..

Another satisfied test subject! My tranny issues are gone!

You rock

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Old 03-03-2006, 08:19 PM   #73
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My little darling is up on stands draining as I type this.

The old fluid (25,000 miles), while not black, smelled absolutely putrid, and I swear there was 1/4 inch of ferrous sludge on the magnetic drain plug. I didn't change it myself the first time, but is this amount "normal".

Looking forward to finishing the transfusion in the morning.
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Old 03-03-2006, 11:44 PM   #74
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Gear lube smells horrible.. Thats probably what your smelling. And yeah, its normal to have some shavings and what not on the drain plug magnet. As long as they aren't big chunks!
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Old 03-04-2006, 03:49 PM   #75
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Is it recommended to put a blend into the 6mt as well?

Mike Robinson
Has this question been answered? Searching for a 1/2 hour now for definite confirmation. Waiting to go to Autozone.

I plan on using Torco SGO w/ the LSD additive for the rear. 6MT STi Tranny is still the question.
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