Is 22lbs heavy for a 17x7 wheel?

2slofouru · 01-19-2006, 05:45 PM

Is 22lbs heavy for 17x7 wheels? I'm not sure what the average 17" wheel weighs, but I believe the addition of weight on a larger wheel will be somewhat counteracted by less rubber of the lower profile tire? I am going from 15x6.5" wheels with 195/60 tires to a 17" possibly, since the 16" RS wheels seem to be worth their weight in gold and 17" will look better as well.

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svek · 01-19-2006, 05:46 PM

thats pretty heavy....

HerculesPeanut · 01-19-2006, 05:48 PM

My 17X7.5s are 13lbs so, yes, that seems heavy. I think the BBS wheels are in the upper teens.

No, the larger tires will also weigh more. Check TireRack to get an idea of tire weights.

2slofouru · 01-19-2006, 05:49 PM

Well crap, I guess that's why they are so cheap.

Uncle Scotty · 01-19-2006, 06:02 PM

....there are several inexpensive 17" wheels....and I'd do 17x8's so ya can put a bit bigger tire on 'em....like a 245/40

Uncle NEEDS 17x8's

2slofouru · 01-19-2006, 06:06 PM

The wheels I was checking out are the ADR formula 5 I think. They look like they wouldn't weigh much, they are obviously some type of forged aluminum alloy wheel. I asked the guy if he would weigh one and he said "it's about 22lbs". He may have been wrong, I'm going to contact ADR and see.

fliz · 01-19-2006, 06:13 PM

1. Lightweight
2. Strong
3. Cheap

Pick two of the above.

If they're 22 lbs, they're not forged.

My forged 17x7.5 weigh 15.5. Similar spoke style knockoffs by rota weigh ~19 lbs.

www.wheelweights.net doesn't show the Formula 5, but ADR are all cast aluminum, and range from 18-25.5 lbs for 17x7 sizes.

waktasz · 01-19-2006, 06:32 PM

I got 5zigens 17x8s on the way...they are around 160 a piece I think and weigh 17 pounds. That's pretty decent.

powerlabs · 01-19-2006, 06:52 PM

17x7" Kazera KZ-V; 17lbs, cast and shot peened, $129 each from tire rack.
Or Kosei K1 TS: 17x7, 13.7lbs, cast and shot peened, $199 each from tire rack.

There... Lightweight and inexpensive. The KZ-Vs have served me very well so far; I am definitely pleased with them.
Further info: My 17x7 Kazera KZ-Vs with 215 45 17 Kuhmo Exsta MX tires weight 39.1lbs (mounted balanced and pressurized to 35PSI).
My stock 2.5 RS rims (16x7 5 spoke, 16.5lbs) with slightly worn 205 55 16 inch Dunlop Winter Sport M2 tires weight 38.6 (mounted balanced and pressurized to 35PSI).

Pete Holt · 01-20-2006, 12:12 PM

22lbs? Did they make them out of iron?

I can vouch for the 17" Kosei K1 TS as my track rims and they work great. On the street, my "heavy" 17" rims are less than 17lbs.

2slofouru · 01-20-2006, 12:26 PM

Those Kazeras look nice on your car. I wonder if they clear brembos or even the subaru 4pots, I like those wheels. So you have the 17lb ones? I will check into those. What brakes are those on your car, are they the 4pots? I'm not too knowledgeable on the various brakes we can use. I will figure it out eventually.

express_wagon · 01-20-2006, 12:39 PM

go to www.edgeracing.com and look for the Enkei RP02 wheel...they may stll be on sale for $95 each. they are 17x7.5 and weigh roughly 15lbs each. its a sweet deal. you can shod them with good tires too and dont have to waste money on M+B. i'd get them if i dont already have TWO sets of summer wheels + one set of snow wheels.

powerlabs · 01-20-2006, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2slofouru

Those Kazeras look nice on your car. I wonder if they clear brembos or even the subaru 4pots, I like those wheels. So you have the 17lb ones? I will check into those. What brakes are those on your car, are they the 4pots? I'm not too knowledgeable on the various brakes we can use. I will figure it out eventually.

Thanks

Yeah, those are the 17lb ones. I've hit some stuff with them and they are still perfect. Hell, I drove through Detroit with them; any rim that can do that is good for me

The brakes pictured are stock WRX brakes. I have 4 pots as of this winter but I am currently running them on my stock RS rims:

I do believe these wheels will clear 4 pots, but I won't know untill summer. Luke at the tire rack could tell you for sure.

kennyvb · 01-20-2006, 01:27 PM

I have the 18x7.5" +50 Kosei K1-TS (15.9lbs) but they do not clear Brembos.

powerlabs · 01-20-2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennyvb

I have the 18x7.5" +50 Kosei K1-TS (15.9lbs) but they do not clear Brembos.

Ummm... USDM STI brembos right? Not the brembo 4 pots as pictured above...

kennyvb · 01-20-2006, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerlabs

Ummm... USDM STI brembos right? Not the brembo 4 pots as pictured above...

Yes, USDM STi Brembos. I think the ones pictured are commonly called Subaru 4-Pots.

ripvw · 01-20-2006, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Scotty

...Uncle NEEDS 17x8's

price drop - SSR GT2's in silver, ET48 17x8.5, 15.9 lbs. - now $299 each @ TireRack.

For their best selection of 5x100 wheels, search under the '04 STI...

fliz · 01-20-2006, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waktasz

I got 5zigens 17x8s on the way...they are around 160 a piece I think and weigh 17 pounds. That's pretty decent.

Which model, and where did you order from.

I'm considering getting 17x8 for autox, and that's the cheapest I've seen.

waktasz · 01-20-2006, 05:09 PM

17x8 fn01r-c from Edgeracing.com are $169 each in hyperblack...they cost more for bronze and some other colors though.

kenny08 · 01-20-2006, 05:23 PM

my 18x8 are 18 lbs each, and i think thats heavy. even for 18x8

Patrick Olsen · 01-20-2006, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny08

my 18x8 are 18 lbs each, and i think thats heavy.

And I think you're crazy if you think that's heavy for an 18" wheel.

It's funny to see what people consider "light" and "heavy" on this forum, as it's shifted down about 5# from any other forum I've been on.

Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan

2slofouru · 01-20-2006, 11:57 PM

I checked out edgeracing Expresswagon. Holy crap, that's cheap for a sub 16lb 17" wheel! I wonder if those clear the big brake setups? Why would I spend 300 on 16" RS wheels when those are only slightly more brand new!

And they probably weigh less, anyone know?

NW OBS · 01-21-2006, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerlabs

17x7" Kazera KZ-V; 17lbs, cast and shot peened, $129 each from tire rack.
Or Kosei K1 TS: 17x7, 13.7lbs, cast and shot peened, $199 each from tire rack.

There... Lightweight and inexpensive. The KZ-Vs have served me very well so far; I am definitely pleased with them.
Further info: My 17x7 Kazera KZ-Vs with 215 45 17 Kuhmo Exsta MX tires weight 39.1lbs (mounted balanced and pressurized to 35PSI).
My stock 2.5 RS rims (16x7 5 spoke, 16.5lbs) with slightly worn 205 55 16 inch Dunlop Winter Sport M2 tires weight 38.6 (mounted balanced and pressurized to 35PSI).

Nice ~ that's the combo I picked out for my black OBS and now I get to see 'em LIVE! Thanks. Question did they come shotpeened, or did you do it and refinish the silver (very simple to do)?

Saving this for my 'springtime file'

Forgot, that is one SWEET ride, F'n beautiful!!!

powerlabs · 01-21-2006, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2slofouru

I checked out edgeracing Expresswagon. Holy crap, that's cheap for a sub 16lb 17" wheel! I wonder if those clear the big brake setups? Why would I spend 300 on 16" RS wheels when those are only slightly more brand new!

And they probably weigh less, anyone know?

What, 16" RS wheels? Those weight 16.5LBS if you are referring to the 16x7s 5 spoke.
The 6 spoke weights 16lbs.

powerlabs · 01-21-2006, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NW OBS

Nice ~ that's the combo I picked out for my black OBS AND now I get to see 'em LIVE! Thanks. Question did they come shotpeened, or did you do it and refinish the silver (very simple to do)?

Saving this for my 'springtime file'

They are shotpeened from the factory. I suspect that is part of the reason why they can make them so light. Not as good as a cast wheel, but for the price, its a winner

01-19-2006, 05:45 PM	#1
2slofouru NASIOC Supporter Member#: 90539 Join Date: Jul 2005 Chapter/Region: South East Location: somewhere east of CA Vehicle: 95 L with ej20k powa, Raven R6	Is 22lbs heavy for a 17x7 wheel? Is 22lbs heavy for 17x7 wheels? I'm not sure what the average 17" wheel weighs, but I believe the addition of weight on a larger wheel will be somewhat counteracted by less rubber of the lower profile tire? I am going from 15x6.5" wheels with 195/60 tires to a 17" possibly, since the 16" RS wheels seem to be worth their weight in gold and 17" will look better as well. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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2slofouru NASIOC Supporter Member#: 90539 Join Date: Jul 2005 Chapter/Region: South East Location: somewhere east of CA Vehicle: 95 L with ej20k powa, Raven R6	Arggh Well crap, I guess that's why they are so cheap.

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fliz Scooby Guru Member#: 30342 Join Date: Nov 2002	1. Lightweight 2. Strong 3. Cheap Pick two of the above. If they're 22 lbs, they're not forged. My forged 17x7.5 weigh 15.5. Similar spoke style knockoffs by rota weigh ~19 lbs. www.wheelweights.net doesn't show the Formula 5, but ADR are all cast aluminum, and range from 18-25.5 lbs for 17x7 sizes.

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waktasz Scooby Guru Member#: 86356 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State	I got 5zigens 17x8s on the way...they are around 160 a piece I think and weigh 17 pounds. That's pretty decent.

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