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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 44504
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L Sedan |
Thanks to fellow forum members' advice, I decided that pulling heads with engine still in the car was not the way to go.
So I just got my rebuilt 2.2L engine delivered today. Sorry to disappoint those that think I ought to cram a 2.5L turbo in there, but I like to keep stuff like this stock. Check out how complete this setup is! ![]() ![]() ![]() More posts to follow as the replacement progresses......
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Last edited by JPX; 02-24-2006 at 03:15 AM. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 53410
Join Date: Jan 2004
Chapter/Region:
SWIC
Location: Tucson, AZ
Vehicle:BE-> GD-> GR & SG azawd.org |
Lookin good!
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 104305
Join Date: Jan 2006
Vehicle:2004 Forester XT Not Black |
how mant miles did you have on your 96? was a rebuild expensive?
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 5039
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: Ocean Springs, MS
Vehicle:1997 Legacy GT Wagon Navy Blue - sold:-( |
Where'd you get the rebuild and what was the cost if I might ask?
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 94945
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Stevens Point, WI
Vehicle:1995 Legacy OB 5MT Rusty and Clunky |
tell us how smooth a nice EJ22E feels when brand new
![]() How much to rebuild? |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 44504
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L Sedan |
$2000 including gasket set and delivery charge. Supplier is http://www.ccrengines.com/.
Just rearranged the garage today to get this project underway. Current motor is 138K - blown headgasket and a dead waterpump. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 82556
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Parker, Colorado
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L wagon |
$2000 eh? They're local. No delivery charge for me!
Let us know how easy it is to install and how it feels. I imagine there's a break in period? |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 44504
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L Sedan |
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 52324
Join Date: Jan 2004
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Pelham, NH
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did they do a core charge? they rebuild your own motor? turnaround time?
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 44504
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L Sedan |
No core charge (unless you don't send the engine back). They sent out a rebuilt motor with a 3yr warranty - it is not a rebuild of my original motor.
Not a lot got done today since I was on duty with the kids. Only achievement was removing the crank pulley. Pretty sad - one bolt a day is not that good of a pace. Oh and I found out my radiator didn't pass pressure test at the shop, so I need a new one to the tune of $140. Bleah.Basic plan is to have the motor taken out the car this weekend. Might consider sticking the rebuilt motor in the car and then bolting all the intake parts on later. I would rather swap everything on top with the motors out of the car. But I really need to get that engine lift back to the neighbor. |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 44504
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L Sedan |
Last edited by JPX; 01-29-2006 at 03:47 AM. Reason: Added two more photos |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 44504
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L Sedan |
Having 2 kids around really slows down this stage of the process. I cleaned the intake manifold with 2 cans of carb cleaner. Here is a before picture - you Seafoamer guys will appreciate this shot.
![]() A comparison of the old motor's plastic plate and the new one's aluminum plate. Interesting that the old motor's rear seal has held up quite well - especially considering I went through 2 front crank seals. ![]() ![]() I started moving little things like the crank and cam position sensors and the breather tube over. Lots of grit stuck to the pickups. I'm hoping to assemble the manifold to the new motor this weekend and get the block back into the engine bay - good weather forecast will help! In the meantime, it has been great fun driving the Cabriolet to work! ![]() |
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 52324
Join Date: Jan 2004
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Pelham, NH
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having 2 lil ones, I can relate... good work, keep us posted.
Explain the seafoam pic. was it used / not used? I've heard good things about it and am considering adding some prior to next oil change. |
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 5039
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: Ocean Springs, MS
Vehicle:1997 Legacy GT Wagon Navy Blue - sold:-( |
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Was the after pic posted? ss |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 30669
Join Date: Dec 2002
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: 07456, North NJ
Vehicle:1998 Legacy 2.5GT Silver Sleeper Wagon |
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The wife is happy, and the kids are happy. I work slower though. Hopefully my heads arrive Monday and the STi SB later in the week. Then assemble and swap. Sigh. Hope the weather holds out since I am working in the driveway. Oh, and traveling alot. I am in South Dakota right now, home late in the week. |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 44504
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L Sedan |
Glad to hear I'm not the only one with rugrats to chase around while working on these projects!This morning was supposed to be a big day - now it is just fiddling around day. In my haste, I had not noticed that the new motor's rear main seal was not already installed. ![]() ![]() Unfortunately I did not make it to the parts store in time and now EVERYTHING has to wait until Monday at the earliest. ![]() |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 44504
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L Sedan |
So I got the rear main seal and installed it tonight. It was a hassle getting in - most oil seals are small enough to use a socket or something. This 4" or so thing kept getting ****-eyed. But I was able to set it in at the same depth the old seal was at. Basically it is flush with the block surface but just a little bit below about halfway down the chamfer.
![]() ![]() Now I can proceed with getting the driveplate back on and putting the project back on track. I picked up new radiator hoses and the little $16 hose that runs off the bypass on water pump. |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 44504
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L Sedan |
Actually got an hour in the garage. Intake manifold went on today. Who knows, maybe the engine will go in the car this weekend.
![]() ![]() subysouth, the picture posted is before cleaning up the intake manifold. After cleaning it is , well.....clean. The buildup wasn't that tough to dissolve off. I was expecting something more caked on after 135,000 miles. |
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 94945
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Stevens Point, WI
Vehicle:1995 Legacy OB 5MT Rusty and Clunky |
cool, I'd like to hear how one of these feels, brand new, since I wasn't driving when the EJ22 was still an option.
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 44504
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L Sedan |
Well, I finally got around to remounting the engine back into the car. I thought I was going to have an easy time with this since I checked the dowel pins and put antiseize compound on them and the threaded areas.
![]() ![]() But I found mysef fighting the transmission along with a floor jack to weasel things together. Had to beat up the engine mounts below while cramming the 2 studs into the transmission. ![]() ![]() But then it magically found a happy place and settled into the bay very nicely....2 hours later. ![]() Since the car has an automatic transmission, there are 4 bolts that connect the driveplate to the torque converter. This was the combination of extensions and swivels I used UNDER the intake manifold to tighten them through the top of the bell housing. BUY SWIVELS - YOU WILL NEED THEM. ![]() |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 44504
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L Sedan |
New Modine radiator and cleaned up the coolant overflow tank - it was pretty oily and grubby following the head gasket failure on the old motor.
![]() ![]() Here is what a fresh valve train looks like through the oil filler hole! Very exciting stuff. ![]() The motor fully assembled (minus belt covers). ![]() It fired up after a bit of persuasion from the fuel pump. Burping the cooling system is a royal pain - air EVERYWHERE. This thread-> on flushing coolant was quite helpful. But now I have a Check Engine Light (CEL) that I can't shake loose even after multiple ECU resets. Once I pull the CEL code, I'll have a better idea of what to do next. Here is the scanner I am going to pick up->INNOVIA 3100 OBD II Code reader. |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 44504
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L Sedan |
Update: Check Engine Light is due to troublecode P0115 - Coolant Temp Circuit Malfunction. Will spend tonight messing around with the sensors under the intake manifold.
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 44504
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Vehicle:1996 Legacy L Sedan |
Finally nailed down that CEL P0115.
And of course it was something stupid. I had missed connecting up the coolant temperature sensor under the intake manifold. Thanks to Legacy777 on this post->http://www.ultimatesubaru.net/forum/...ad.php?t=53620 for the excellent reference photo to guide my investigation. In retrospect, I wouldn't have needed the OBD2 scanner if I had been more careful about that connector. I suppose the good news is that it was the only major error upon final assembly. ![]() The ECU is still re-learning so it is improving response with each drive. New motor is a puller.....it really feels quite tight. As a result of a smoother motor, I can feel the alternator bearing banging away. This is probably due to the messed up crank pulley I had asked about on this thread->http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=939345. 138,000 miles on the odometer.....and a new engine to take the car into it's second decade! Thanks for words of encouragement from fellow NASIOC! |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 57431
Join Date: Mar 2004
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Charleston, WV
Vehicle:2003 98 Outback 03 Dakota 4x4 |
Glad to see you got your motor in. I'm thinking about swapping in a DOHC EJ25 and ECU, which is supposedly plug and play for our cars. I'm not sure of a price difference though. Enjoy your new motor.
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Scooby Guru
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Congratulations on such a nice & almost problem free swap.
I have 186K on my '96 2.2 and all is well. Nice to know how cheap a good rebuild is. |
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