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Old 01-23-2000, 09:20 AM   #1
Yair Bartal
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Question First oil change for Legacy

I've got a new Legacy and both my owner's book AND dealer say that first oil change and filter is at 12,500 km or 12 months and then every 12,500 km or 12 months.
Is that not too much?
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Old 01-23-2000, 11:21 PM   #2
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What model Legacy do you have? And make sure you REALLY read your manual. I have a 97 GT and in my manual it says every 3000 miles. There should be a "maintenance log" or something that says when everything needs to be done, like rotate tires, replacing belts etc.......

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Old 01-23-2000, 11:51 PM   #3
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It is MY00 and the owner's guide is from June 99. I did read it (twice!) and it is in the maintenance log.

So??
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Old 01-24-2000, 06:48 AM   #4
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Wow! Well, I would say doing a oil change more often won't hurt your car, but if the manual says every 12,500 km then it must be ok. Check to see if they used synthetic oil. I could be wrong but I think synthetic oil doesn't need to be changed as often. Where do you live?

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Old 01-24-2000, 07:42 AM   #5
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12,500km translates to 7500mi, which is the manufacturer's recommended change frequency in the US.

Personally, I still have problems in letting myself let the car go that far on one oil change -- though the manufacturers, car mags, and Consumer Reports all say that it's fine. I'm going to switch from an 'every 3333 miles (5555 km)' schedule over to 'every 5000 miles (8333 km)'. I figure that will save me a couple bucks a year, but will make the tire rotation routine a bit simpler as well -- I rotate every 5000 mi (8333 km), and doing the oil change and rotation at the same time simplifies things.

Yair - Two things. 1) I'd recommend that you do your first oil change at about 1500 - 1750 km (1000 miles) to help the engine break in. Consensus has it that there are going to be microscopic metal shavings in the oil as all the new parts are breaking in, and an oil change will clear them out.
2) I'd recommend doing an oil change schedule that requires a minimum of thought (i.e. I was changing my oil every 3333 miles because that way, whenever my odometer showed x3333, x6666, or x0000 I knew it was time to change the oil). I think that the simplest for you would be to go to a 10K km schedule, or, if you're a bit hesitant to go that far, change every 5000 km or 7500 km.

You won't hurt your car by changing the oil more frequently.

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PS - I just looked up the maintenance schedule for MY00 (the same as '98, etc.) on the Subaru web site (<a href="http://www.subaru.com/" target="_blank">www.subaru.com</a> -- Under 'Subaru Care; Maintenance Schedules'). The official word from SOA (not necessarily the same as Subaru of Canada or elsewhere) shows the first oil change at 3000 mi (4800 km), the next at 7500 mi (12000 km), and every 7500 mi (12000 km) thereafter.
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Old 01-24-2000, 07:48 AM   #6
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Well, synthetic oil is not mentioned.
Besides, it's factory oil that is replaced the first time.
I live in Israel and the manual refers to both 2L and 2.5L engines.

I still don't see that much difference between Legacies sold in the US and here.

Anyone from Europe? Australia?
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Old 01-26-2000, 02:14 PM   #7
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Yair -

yup, Europe AND Australia . (Seconded to Sydney, from London).

In Oz, Legacies are called "Liberty"s (don't ask). Same car, same 2 or 2.5 litre motors, neither of which comes with synthetic oil - all the dealers use semi-synthetic. No "break-in" oil change was required (but then neither was one required for the last two news cars I've owned). Aussies know a thing or two about keeping cars running in extreme climates, so I'm inclined to go along with the service book, which merely dictated shorter service intervals for those using the car in dry/dusty/hot conditions. I'm curious, though, to find out whether synthetic oil will make the car run better.

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Old 01-26-2000, 09:40 PM   #8
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Andy,

Well, I just had a look at a Fiat Marea owner's book. It says there: replace oil and filter every 20000 km or 18 months including the first one!
WOW, that's much longer than even the Legacy.

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