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Old 01-22-2006, 04:59 PM   #1
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Alright guys, I'm starting my first car project this spring/summer. But before I drop thousands of dollars into my baby I need some Subie support. Tell me what you think...

I have a 98 2.5RS.

I want to do some sort of swap. Should I do USDM WRX or a JDM spec motor? Which is more practical for a first timer? Is one easier than the other?

Do you know of any other good places to find complete motors besides here and ebay?

Just lookin for some input from those who have done it before and any other ideas... Thanks!
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Old 01-22-2006, 05:01 PM   #2
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Welcome! You'll probably find a lot more information in the Conversions technical forum. Sounds like a neat project. Good luck.
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Old 01-22-2006, 05:09 PM   #3
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I don't think you need to do a swap... I'm pretty sure that a bunch of the 2.5RS guys have taken pieces of the EJ257 and put them into it to make turbo'd beasts...
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Old 01-22-2006, 06:01 PM   #4
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Yeah sorry I'm extremely new...guess I should have looked around before I posted that in this forum. I started looking around in the others, but still curious to see what everyone else thinks... Thanks
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Old 01-22-2006, 06:18 PM   #5
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do a JDM swap
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Old 01-22-2006, 06:34 PM   #6
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Depending to what you have access to, a swap might be more than you're looking to get into for a first time thing. You might want to try a turbo kit on your RS. I know many here who have had great results doing just that.
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Old 01-22-2006, 06:38 PM   #7
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^^ um. turbo'ing an rs is not the greatest of ideas. plus its around the same amount as a jdm wrx engine. swap would be more reliable.
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Old 01-22-2006, 06:42 PM   #8
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^^ um. turbo'ing an rs is not the greatest of ideas. plus its around the same amount as a jdm wrx engine. swap would be more reliable.
Well I was just giving him some advice for someone who may not be too car savy yet. Some swaps can be ECU wiring nightmares. The turbo kits are fairly straightforward.
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Old 01-29-2006, 07:28 PM   #9
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^^ um. turbo'ing an rs is not the greatest of ideas. plus its around the same amount as a jdm wrx engine. swap would be more reliable.
I turboed my RS with 6,000miles on the clock it ran great up to 92,000miles at that time I wanted more and couldn't get anymore safe power out of the stock motor so I just did a EJ205 swap. I gave Girlyspeed a ride today and she seems to like it, and that is a almost stock EJ205(perrin uppipe).
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Old 01-29-2006, 09:51 PM   #10
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totally doin a swap.. now the question is where can i find a cheap motor....
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Old 01-29-2006, 09:53 PM   #11
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I don't think you need to do a swap... I'm pretty sure that a bunch of the 2.5RS guys have taken pieces of the EJ257 and put them into it to make turbo'd beasts...


....sorry.....NO. Not.
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Old 01-29-2006, 09:54 PM   #12
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....an early RS with any STi drivetrain, USDM or not, would =
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Old 01-29-2006, 09:55 PM   #13
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totally doin a swap.. now the question is where can i find a cheap motor....

KEEPER
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Old 01-29-2006, 11:51 PM   #14
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Old 01-30-2006, 06:10 AM   #15
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....an early RS with any STi drivetrain, USDM or not, would =


I think she wants the engine and tranny also.

http://www.m-w.com/

One entry found for drivetrain.


Main Entry: drive·train
Pronunciation: 'drIv-"trAn
Function: noun
: the parts (as the universal joint and the driveshaft ) that connect the transmission with the driving axles of an automobile
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:30 AM   #16
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[quote=D fresh]

I think she wants the engine and tranny also.


just the motor actually
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:39 AM   #17
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[quote=GirlySpeed]
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I think she wants the engine and tranny also.


just the motor actually
Which one, the windshield wiper motor or the power window motors?


Ohh you must be talking about the turbocharged boxer engine.


Just playin, its a pet peave of mine when people say motor when they are referring to an internal combustion engine.

Keep on keepin on and good luck with your swap.
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Old 01-30-2006, 08:44 AM   #18
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totally doin a swap.. now the question is where can i find a cheap motor....
Where in PA are you? I'm going to ask allstate if I can buy back my totalled 05 WRX if the price is right.
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Old 01-30-2006, 09:03 AM   #19
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Well I was just giving him some advice for someone who may not be too car savy yet. Some swaps can be ECU wiring nightmares. The turbo kits are fairly straightforward.
The turbo kits are hard to come by and the block isn't built to take boost. The '98 RS engine will have trouble with 8psi. You can't turbo on the stock ECU, you'll need a piggyback at least.. that's much more a nightmare than an ECU swap.
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Keep an eye out for a cheap JDM clip. If your doing a swap I think this is probaly the best way to go, just buy the whole front of the car. Then you'd just need a rear and your set.

But as far as I can dig up I wouldnt recommend this for someone with little knowlege about cars. The wiring isnt easy (from what I've seen) and it takes a bit to work out the quirks in them (usually fuel pump issues).

If you could strip your RS and have a drivetrain ready to go it might be worth it in the long run to drop it off at a good shop that can do the swap within a week. It will cost more but IMHO well worth it for someone who knows what there doing to do it. And at the end you'll have a good running car, done right, for less then a wrx.
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Keep an eye out for a cheap JDM clip. If your doing a swap I think this is probaly the best way to go, just buy the whole front of the car. Then you'd just need a rear and your set.

But as far as I can dig up I wouldnt recommend this for someone with little knowlege about cars. The wiring isnt easy (from what I've seen) and it takes a bit to work out the quirks in them (usually fuel pump issues).

If you could strip your RS and have a drivetrain ready to go it might be worth it in the long run to drop it off at a good shop that can do the swap within a week. It will cost more but IMHO well worth it for someone who knows what there doing to do it. And at the end you'll have a good running car, done right, for less then a wrx.
I'm definitly keeping my eyes open for anything...front clip of anything would be ideal (even a USDM WRX cause I could use the interior too!!)

And actually I do know quite a bit about cars but I've never taken one apart/put one together, so thats another reason i'm giving this a try. But don't worry I have lots of people helping me

Thanks so much for your help!

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[quote=D fresh]
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Which one, the windshield wiper motor or the power window motors?


Ohh you must be talking about the turbocharged boxer engine.


Just playin, its a pet peave of mine when people say motor when they are referring to an internal combustion engine.

Keep on keepin on and good luck with your swap.
Don't remind me...I need a power window motor too! hehe

Thanks so much for your help!
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Old 02-02-2006, 09:38 PM   #23
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Yea find out if anyone has that power window assembly!
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Since you live in PA and own an OBDII car your only choice is a USDM swap
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