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Old 09-17-2001, 03:46 PM   #1
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Unhappy Crappy clutch question (My questions is different I swear!)

Hey hey my fellow Scoobie Dooists -

Ok, so I have a 2000 Impreza with 38,000 miles on it. I've had the shuttering and squeeking problem since the day I bought it. As of a month ago, I noticed my clutch fluid reservoir had dirt mixed in with the fluid with even grains of dirt settling at the bottom of the reservoir.

So I am looking to get rid of the shuttering problem (the squeeking I could give a sheite less about) and the dirty clutch reservoir, but I am unsure of all the components of the clutch that I need to replace.

For instance, has anyone confirmed that the O2 sensor recall for 2000 models is part of the clutch shutter problem? For you guys who have had the shuttering problem fixed by the dealerships, what all did they replace?

So what are the compenents I need to replace to get my clutch working in normal order? Do I need a new O2 sensor? A new master cylinder? A new slave cylinder? Do I need a new clutch as well, or will replacing the hydraulic components be enough? If I get a new clutch, do I need a flywheel as well?

If anyone can give me any knowledge about these things, I would sincerely appreciate it! I need to fix these things now and I don't know where to start.

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Old 09-28-2001, 06:03 PM   #2
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I have a 2000 rs and haven't heard of recall on o2 sensor. When did they announce this ? I have same problem with my FREAKIN' CLUTCH!!
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Old 09-28-2001, 06:16 PM   #3
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If you were part of the O2 sensor recall, you would have gotten a letter. Failing that, call 1.800.SUBARU3, give them your VIN #, and they will tell you if you are a part of the recall.


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Old 10-10-2001, 04:19 PM   #4
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Default Funny you should ask.....

I haven't had the O2 sensor done yet. I never had the shudder though. Although I'd have rather had the shudder than replace the clutch at 21k.

EVERY TIME I talked to SOA about my premature clutch failure they asked me if I had the O2 sensor checked out yet. Kind of interesting isn't it?

I'll be watching for more replies on this.

-matt

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I bought the car when it was 9mths old and had 16k on it. 4mnts and 4k later clutch started to slip in 5th. The clutch and pressure plate were not worn. I feel that because the parts weren't worn that it wasn't error/abuse and that the issue is tied to bad pressure plate design/part and or maybe flywheel not being flat enough - but certainly a condition that existed from day 1, whether it was part design issue, part out of spec, or installation issue. Because I had the clutch fixed at an independent mechanic SOA is, so far, taking a stance that I'm out of luck. My guess is that this is driven by one of two things: Either they knew of a cheaper fix (ie: flatten the flywheel), or they just want to do the work because they get the parts at cost and pay the mechanics on a 'warranty rate'. It'd be a lot easier if they admited that they had clutch issues and let people know that in cases where the parts were not worn or abused that SOA would cover the replacement.
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Old 10-11-2001, 02:09 AM   #5
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wait a sec... O2 sensor=Exhaust Oxygen sensor, Clutch=Drivetrain....how the heck could the O2 sensor cause the clutch to shudder?

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Old 10-11-2001, 11:36 AM   #6
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I totally see your point.

It's more likely the O2 sensor issue is related to the many complaints of hesitation (between 1500-2500 rpm ?) that have been made.

But perhaps if the sensor was causing an engine to run roughly (or drop to a lower rev under certain conditions) that might effect clutch engagement.

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Old 10-11-2001, 12:13 PM   #7
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true, and since you engage the clutch directly after you let off the gas, maybe the O2's reading during that point causes the engine to run rich/lean, and shudder. And that shudder translates down the engine to the tranny, to the clutch engagment fork...to the pedal. Hmmm....a thought...for those of you with this issue.....does the engine act funny at all during the same time when the clutch is shuddering, or is it isolated to the transmission? Can you feel it in the shifter?

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Old 10-11-2001, 12:55 PM   #8
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I think relating O2 sensors to shuddering when engaging the clutch is a big stretch. I believe the recall on the O2 sensor was for emissions reasons. Otherwise they would not have issued a recall. Manufacturer's only issue recalls for safety or emissions reasons.
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