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Old 01-26-2006, 10:30 PM   #1
rewt
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 60794
Join Date: Apr 2004
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Somewhere in Northern DE
Vehicle:
2007 Solstice GXP

Default PLS comment on my logs...

Hey everyone... I was interested in your input on my current state of tune based on the attached log(s). Basically, I'm wondering if I should call it quits on this particular tune and move on to tuning w/WI.

I'm running a SZ55 w/TD06H turbine (clipped 15 degrees) with supporting modifications (FMIC, BigMAF, EWG, modded injectors, etc.) on an 02 WRX... and this log is on 93 oct. fuel:

Code:
                            Load Knock                     Mod   Mod         Mod
 RPM   MAP  MAF TPS Site Count  AFR  Ign#1  Inj#1  Ign   Fuel Boost  MAF
       psig  V   %                    deg   duty   deg    %   (CL)    V 
 3835  +7.6 3.3 101  40    00   14.1 +31.6   20.9 +26.7  -2.8 105.00 2.7
 3912  +8.4 3.3 102  40    00   13.5 +30.4   24.8 +24.6  -2.7 105.00 2.8
 4045  +9.2 3.4 102  50    00   rich +28.4   28.6 +23.0  -2.6 137.00 2.9
 4095 +10.2 3.5 102  50    00   rich +26.2   32.1 +21.0  -2.6 137.00 3.0
 4171 +11.2 3.5 101  60    00   rich +22.0   39.7 +19.4  -2.2 137.00 3.2
 4290 +13.1 3.7 101  70    00   rich +18.6   43.5 +17.9  -2.2 137.00 3.3
 4432 +14.7 3.9 101  70    00   rich +15.9   50.6 +17.1  -1.9 137.00 3.3
 4541 +16.8 3.9 101  80    00   rich +14.9   53.2 +16.9  -1.7 137.00 3.4
 4668 +18.4 4.0 102  80    00   rich +15.0   47.4 +16.3  -1.7 137.00 3.5
 4748 +19.0 4.0 101  80    00   rich +14.7   53.6 +16.0  -1.8 137.00 3.4
 4873 +19.4 4.0 102  80    00   rich +14.7   54.5 +15.9  -1.8 137.00 3.3
 5073 +19.2 4.1 101  80    00   rich +14.7   45.9 +15.8  -1.8 202.00 3.5
 5208 +19.2 4.0 101  80    00   rich +14.6   61.3 +15.8  -1.8 202.00 3.5
 5527 +19.4 4.1 100  90    00   rich +14.1   61.2 +16.0  -1.8 202.00 3.5
 5385 +19.8 4.1 100  90    00   rich +13.7   64.4 +15.0  -1.8 202.00 3.6
 5564 +20.6 4.1 102  90    00   rich +13.6   66.9 +15.5  -1.8 202.00 3.6
 5592 +21.0 4.3 101  90    00   rich +14.1   68.5 +16.0  -1.8 202.00 3.7
 5717 +21.6 4.3 101  90    00   rich +14.5   68.1 +15.9  -1.8 202.00 3.6
 5868 +21.9 4.3 101 100    00   rich +14.8   74.5 +16.3  -1.8 202.00 3.7
 5952 +21.2 4.5 101  90    00   rich +15.9   76.8 +17.4  -1.5 202.00 3.7
 6049 +21.2 4.5 101  90    00   rich +16.6   79.0 +18.3  -1.4 202.00 3.8
 6172 +20.6 4.4 101  90    00   rich +16.9   80.2 +18.4  -1.4 202.00 3.9
 6373 +20.6 4.4 101  90    00   rich +17.9   74.7 +19.1  -1.4 202.00 3.8
 6397 +21.2 4.5 101  90    00   rich +18.2   74.9 +19.8  -1.4 202.00 3.8
 6587 +21.6 4.4 100  90    00   rich +18.3   75.0 +20.0  -1.3 197.00 3.8
 6680 +21.6 4.4 101  90    00   rich +18.3   76.6 +20.0  -1.4 197.00 3.8
 6747 +21.6 4.4 101  90    00   rich +18.3   77.6 +20.0  -1.4 197.00 3.8
 6858 +22.3 4.4 102 100    00   rich +18.3   75.7 +20.3  -1.4 197.00 3.8
 7153 +22.1 4.3  87 100    00   rich +28.7   68.7 +20.0  -1.5 LCM.   3.1
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Old 01-26-2006, 10:41 PM   #2
rewt
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 60794
Join Date: Apr 2004
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Somewhere in Northern DE
Vehicle:
2007 Solstice GXP

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WB02 data:
Code:
Time,   Lambda,      AFR,      RPM
7:08:07 PM,      0.98,     14.40,      3789
7:08:07 PM,      0.98,     14.40,      3827
7:08:07 PM,      0.98,     14.40,      3827
7:08:07 PM,      0.98,     14.40,      3853
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7:08:07 PM,      0.95,     13.90,      3932
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7:08:07 PM,      0.93,     13.60,      4000
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7:08:08 PM,      0.84,     12.40,      4085
7:08:08 PM,      0.84,     12.40,      4100
7:08:08 PM,      0.84,     12.30,      4114
7:08:08 PM,      0.83,     12.20,      4114
7:08:08 PM,      0.83,     12.20,      4129
7:08:08 PM,      0.82,     12.10,      4114
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7:08:08 PM,      0.81,     11.90,      4129
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7:08:08 PM,      0.80,     11.80,      4144
7:08:08 PM,      0.80,     11.70,      4159
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I would appreciate any constructive comments, but please leave the "its a bomb" type comments out. Thanks!
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It looks like a pretty clean tune, good solid afr's... I'm personally wondering how you can run that much boost on 93 without running into octane det, I didn't think 93 octane liked running under that much pressure without producing knock. Also I am pretty surprised with the amount of timing you are able to run with out seeing any knock, seems like alot of timing for that much boost but if it's working well then great. Question though, do you have any accessory knock reading device? knocklink, knocklite, detcans, anything?
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For knock sensing, I'm just using the UTEC, and its knock detection.

As far as timing is concerned, I actually thought it looked low compared to some of the big turbo logs I've seen. I like to run more boost, less timing. Also, I definitely won't push more boost than this on pump fuel... I'm waiting to spray water/alky before I push the boost higher.
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what kills me is how smart the oem bugeye ecu really is.

look at its timing #s compared to yours! you could run with just fuel control in the utec's hands (what i like to call SAFC mode).

as far as the tune it doesn't look like you have much more room to tweak.
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I agree. It doesn't get much better than this. You guys must have some good 93. That's amazing boost sans knock on 93 octane. Good job!
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what kills me is how smart the oem bugeye ecu really is.

look at its timing #s compared to yours! you could run with just fuel control in the utec's hands (what i like to call SAFC mode).

as far as the tune it doesn't look like you have much more room to tweak.
Amen to that. The stock ECU's timing looks pretty aggressive compared with what he's running.

If he's knock free with that kind of boost and AFR, that's a very strong tune... perhaps not the most reliable setup, but as long as you keep on top of your knock levels, you should be fine.

As asked before -- are you running any "extra" knock sensing gear?
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Thanks guys for all the input; I'm glad to hear my tune looks okay.

As far as knock sensing is concerned, I'm just using the UTEC's knock detection w/stock knock sensor. I am not using any other hardware, currently.
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Looks good. As previously pointed out, the stock ECU is running agressively, which is a good sign.
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