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Old 01-28-2006, 01:00 AM   #1
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Cool Audi R10 breaks Sebring lap record at test

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Old 01-28-2006, 03:03 AM   #2
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pretty damn impressive
I remain unimpressed

Finally a "new rules" aero car from a major player, and it's only 0.7 secs faster? Not too great an achievement, considering the progressive restrictions added to the R8 and it's contemporaries over the last couple of years. Add to that Michelin's continual improvements...

Reasons why it's not to shabby:

It's the first (public) test of a brand new car-new chassis, engine, not sure about tranny. It will probably get faster.

It's a diesel. More torque than a semi, with a slightly more aerodynamic body

I'll be truly impressed when a diesel runs a full 12 or 24 hour race at a competitive pace without breaking something under all that grunt. That'll be cool to see.
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Old 01-28-2006, 09:23 AM   #3
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It's a diesel. More torque than a semi, with a slightly more aerodynamic body

I'll be truly impressed when a diesel runs a full 12 or 24 hour race at a competitive pace without breaking something under all that grunt. That'll be cool to see.
They do run diesels at Dakar and one could argue that is pretty harsh race.
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Old 01-28-2006, 09:43 AM   #4
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They do run diesels at Dakar and one could argue that is pretty harsh race.
hmm true.... very dangerous race also as it seems to claim a racer every year
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Old 01-29-2006, 05:21 AM   #5
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They do run diesels at Dakar and one could argue that is pretty harsh race.
Good point. Aren't all the top running Dakar "trucks" diesel?

I was specifically thinking of the Taurus (team not car), the last car to run Le Mans with a diesel. Killed the gearbox early on and had to retire. I think the prototype diesels run a lot more torque than the Dakar trucks, but I could be wrong. Doubt if the Pajero Evolution could run under 4min laps anyhow

Apparently the R10's engine is almost too quiet at speed-it's a bit hard to hear over the tire/chassis noise. Makes the shift lights earn their keep, I guess.
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Its impressive because they haven't run the car very much. Any new car is going to take time to develop, this isn't F1 where there is a completely new and improved car every year.
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i was at the sebring test observing a few teams...

just for note....

it doesnt make much sense to consider these laptimes...when the audi set its time it was early in the day, and the temps were in the high 50's..... not 80 like the two previous days...

also....sebring changes sooo much from now until march, because not many people have hit the track for race weekends.... and the humidity isnt present.

dont get me wrong, im not saying the new car is not impressive, but it should be.... 800ft lbs of torque... twin turbo V12.... larger tires.... more everything...

Plus the car has tested many times already in europe before it's release...audi likes to be all "secretive" about things...

but, i did a test in 2003 with dyson when i was racing for them, exact time of year (same day as the 24 hours of daytona) and our team cars lapped in the 1.48's on extended tire runs.... James Weaver turned a 1.47.2 on used rubber and a qualifying map... On a set of sticker qualifying tires he could have easily done a 1.46....

but come race weekend... qualifying times were in the 1.49's......and race pace was in the 1:50's.... our setup from testing was just off because of the track temps and dirt...


Dont get me wrong....The audi is impressive... they werent even letting Dave Miraj (owner of Champion Racing) under the tent, or the driver's wives... and there were over 20 data acquisition people there.....

to me, what a team like Dyson Racing does is more impressive, taking a customer car/engine package, and running with a Factory team...

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Good point. Aren't all the top running Dakar "trucks" diesel?
Yes but the Mitsubishi Pajero is not considered a truck it is considered a car and the only cars I am aware of that run a desiel engine are the VWs.
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i was at the sebring test observing a few teams...

just for note....

it doesnt make much sense to consider these laptimes...when the audi set its time it was early in the day, and the temps were in the high 50's..... not 80 like the two previous days...

also....sebring changes sooo much from now until march, because not many people have hit the track for race weekends.... and the humidity isnt present.

dont get me wrong, im not saying the new car is not impressive, but it should be.... 800ft lbs of torque... twin turbo V12.... larger tires.... more everything...

Plus the car has tested many times already in europe before it's release...audi likes to be all "secretive" about things...

but, i did a test in 2003 with dyson when i was racing for them, exact time of year (same day as the 24 hours of daytona) and our team cars lapped in the 1.48's on extended tire runs.... James Weaver turned a 1.47.2 on used rubber and a qualifying map... On a set of sticker qualifying tires he could have easily done a 1.46....

but come race weekend... qualifying times were in the 1.49's......and race pace was in the 1:50's.... our setup from testing was just off because of the track temps and dirt...


Dont get me wrong....The audi is impressive... they werent even letting Dave Miraj (owner of Champion Racing) under the tent, or the driver's wives... and there were over 20 data acquisition people there.....

to me, what a team like Dyson Racing does is more impressive, taking a customer car/engine package, and running with a Factory team...

Cheers

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GOOD POINT CB !!...but what we really want to know is.............................
.............did you get any wings in Sebring or did you drive 4 hrs north to Daytona and go to the WING HOUSE ?............




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