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Old 01-29-2006, 10:42 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Low Beam (H7) upgrade option

I send an e-mail to Daniel Stern of:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/

asking if there were any options for upgrading the lighting on the B9, this was his reply:


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> H7 upgrades?

Use H7+65

Standard H7: 55w, 1400 lumens, 500 hours
H7 ultra "Plus+50": 55w, 1550 lumens, 225 hours, $17.50/ea
H7 rallye+65: 65w, 2100 lumens, 500 hours, $24/ea.

The extra 10w is of no consequence as far as electrical power or heat.
(those 80w to 100w bulbs are a different story!)

> I don't see anything for the H9 high beam

Don't change it -- leave it be.

You can see the bulbs here:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/p.../products.html

Look at the H7 bulbs towards the bottom of that page. I'm gonna order some and see how they work. I plan on getting some Gold H3 bulbs too for the fogs. I have them in my Forester, they work out nicely. I'll report back eventually
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Old 01-29-2006, 06:28 PM   #2
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Does the bulb change provide a change in the light pattern or just more light in the same place?
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Old 01-29-2006, 06:35 PM   #3
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Pattern will be the same, the pattern is set by the lens cluster not the bulb. just more light.

I mentioned the beam pattern this was the reply:

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Regarding the headlamps on the B9, this is the first "projector beam"
> I've ever had. The cutoff is quite sharp. I have no problem with it
> but some others have commented that they find it annoying and or wish it
> were higher.

It would be nicer if the cutoff had a slightly different shape, but what
people need to realize is that a higher cutoff is NOT necessarily a good
thing. The reach of these low beams is *not* shorter than with a reflector
type lamp, but the sharpness of the cutoff and its placement within the
beam means they now have real-time, visual feedback as to the reach of
their low beams. "OK, right this instant, with the car at its present
attitude and orientation, your seeing distance ends right HERE, so don't
go faster than you can stop in that distance!". This visual information is
not available with a softer or differently-placed cutoff (or without a
cutoff). Most people overdrive their low beams much of the time, and have
no way of realizing it until the crash comes.
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Old 01-30-2006, 01:38 PM   #4
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The explanation makes sense, but I still think that there should be some spillage to the right for side of the road markers and mile markers. I'll live with it.

If I hadn't driven as much with cars that were distinctly different then maybe it wouldn't bother me so much.

Thanks for the follow up.
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Old 01-30-2006, 01:54 PM   #5
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I agree there should be a flair of the pattern to the right for a LHD car like most other headlamps I've had. Maybe Subaru didn't do it so they could use the same assy on both RHD and LHD?
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Old 02-10-2006, 09:35 AM   #6
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I will be upgrading the headlights (H7) and the foglights (H3) with PIAA Xtreme White Plus bulbs soon. I will be sure to take before/after pics for those interested.
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Old 02-12-2006, 09:49 PM   #7
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I have a set of the H7 from stern on order and some gold Narva for the fogs. I'm not sure that Xtreme white bulbs are the best for fog lamps, those are skewed towards the blue end of the spectrum. Blue is a bad choice for fog, that colour scatters the most. Last thing you want in bad weather.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...fog_lamps.html

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...e/bad/bad.html

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...uperwhite.html
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Old 02-15-2006, 06:40 PM   #8
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My bulbs came in today, guess I'll be busy this weekend
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Old 02-16-2006, 02:39 PM   #9
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Could you post some before/after pics with lights on? That would be greatly appreciated. I personally think the B9's lights are pretty good, but I could always use a little extra.

Thanks, Peaty!
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Old 02-16-2006, 02:50 PM   #10
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It's been my experience that headlight photo's of before and after (beyond pattern) will not really be of much use. Most camera's will compensate for light trying to normalize the pic. I can give you subjective input but this here:

Standard H7: 55w, 1400 lumens

H7 rallye+65: 65w, 2100 lumens

Kind of tells you what you need to know
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Old 02-16-2006, 03:02 PM   #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peaty
It's been my experience that headlight photo's of before and after (beyond pattern) will not really be of much use. Most camera's will compensate for light trying to normalize the pic. I can give you subjective input but this here:

Standard H7: 55w, 1400 lumens

H7 rallye+65: 65w, 2100 lumens

Kind of tells you what you need to know
Sure, understood. I'll drop the 50 bucks and 'see' for myself.
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Old 02-16-2006, 03:02 PM   #12
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I'll be putting mine in soon and will give feedback though
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Old 02-17-2006, 11:14 PM   #13
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OK tonight I did the headlamps and put in some gold fog bulbs from D Stern.

The headlamp bulbs themselves are very nice:



You can see that the element is longer and nicely placed. The base of the new bulb is thick glass holding the main wires not a small bead like the OEM bulb. I normally don't like to take comparo pics of the light but this is a photo I only cropped, resized and added text. No other adjustments.



I have not driven around yet, but will report back later. They were a pain to install but not all that bad. I'll do a proper write up soon.

The fogs posed a real problem until I figured out how to get the whole lamp assy. out to change the bulb. Much swearing was involved, once I figured out the trick, it was a snap. More on that later too.
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I'm not sure that Xtreme white bulbs are the best for fog lamps, those are skewed towards the blue end of the spectrum. Blue is a bad choice for fog, that colour scatters the most. Last thing you want in bad weather.
They are rated at 4000k, so they are not blue at all. I tried to get my GF to go for yellow bulbs for the fogs, but she wouldn't budge.
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It's been my experience that headlight photo's of before and after (beyond pattern) will not really be of much use. Most camera's will compensate for light trying to normalize the pic.
Yea, the before and after pics of the PIAA bulbs don't really do them justice. They are whiter than stock with about the same brightness. Sorry I don't know the lumens for the PIAA bulbs.
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Old 02-22-2006, 09:38 PM   #17
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how much work would it be to get at the chrome part of the headlamp?

I am anti-chrome.
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Old 02-23-2006, 12:12 AM   #18
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I don't like chrome either but, I did try to remove the whole headlamp to replace the bulb and it was a lot harder than I thought. I ended up doing the bulb swap with the assy in place.
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I don't like chrome either but, I did try to remove the whole headlamp to replace the bulb and it was a lot harder than I thought. I ended up doing the bulb swap with the assy in place.
What I was wondering was is the lense Sealed on somehow or is it clips?

And how can I get a copy of that info CD you have? Im in LarryTown every friday and sunday night.

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The headlights are pretty easy to remove. 1st remove the 2 easy to see bolts on the top. Then crawl under the car and remove the 4 clips that hold the splash gaurd on infront of the wheel. Look up at the bottem of the light and you will see 3 screws. Remove them and then pull the light out.

I have also since removed the grill sections. They all seem to have 3 screws in them and then a few push clips and they fall right out. Ill try to take some pictures and Ill post em if someone wants.

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