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Old 02-01-2006, 02:27 AM   #1
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Thumbs up GB: KAIXEN HID KITS for NASIOC members. High quality HID kits with solid reputation.

Hi guys!

I just became a new sponsor here (thanks Nick!).

And I'm here to offer NASIOC members a great deal on one of the highest quality HID kits on the market - KAIXEN HID SYSTEMS.

Many of you are probably not fully aware of Kaixen HID Kits.
This is because Kaixen HID kits have been sold in offline-retail stores (mostly stores that cater to highend cars) until just recently.

Started in 1999, KAIXEN has sold HID kits under special license from Philips and Hella Osram. Since 2003, they have hired their own group of engineers and made advancements in the HID manufacturing industry. Currently, they are the only other company in the world that has developed the diamond shape bulbs next to Philips. All of their bulbs and ballasts are developed and tested under strict quality control from their facilities in South Korea.

KAIXEN HID Kits are sold in over 40 different countries. It's the #2 most sold in Europe, and Australia right after OEM HID kits. Retail prices range from $350 USD to $500 in certain select stores across the world.

Only recently, Kaixen has decided to compete on the "online market" with the other Chinese / Taiwan made brands. This is one of the reasons why you may not have heard of KAIXEN HID KITS.

However, unlike other brands, Kaixen HID kits have solid reputation for quality and service. And don't just take our word for it, research the brand, and you'll see a lot of positive responses.

To start, a quick overview of HID KITs:



The difference in light output is like night and day when compared with traditional halogen bulbs.

HID's are 3 X brighter than any Halogen bulbs. Typical halogen bulbs will give you anywhere between 500 to 1000 Lumens, while consuming 55 watts or more. HID on the other hand will give you 3200 Lumens (based on 4300K) which is more than 3 times the light output of halogens.

IT also lasts almost 10 times longer than halogens. HID bulbs will last around 2500 hours of usage. This means, it will last around 3 to 5 years of regular usage. Unlike $30 xenon bulbs that has a life expectancy of only a few months while causing risk of wire burn outs (due to extra power consumption).




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More about Kaixen HID KITS:



KEY FACTS:
1. These are 100% genuine Made in Korea brand.
2. Kaixen HID kits were first sold using Philips / Matshu****a ballasts and bulbs starting in 1999. Since then, Kaixen has recieved its own license as well as hiring several key engineers from Germany to develop its own high quality ballast / bulbs since 2002.
3. Only other company other than Philips to develop the diamond-cut bulbs.
4. Kaixen is ISO2001 registered, E13 certified, KQA quality assurance certified.
5. All Kits are made direct from the factory, and are not "rebased" as most Philips HID kits are made.
6. Fit and finish quality is second to none.
7. Quality comparable if not better than OEM material.
8. Comes with 1-year full replacement warranty (ship back to Toronto, Canada).


Competitive comparision:
1. Made in China / Taiwan products: Yes, it's cheap. But not by large margins. Although "Made in China" products have improved in recent years, most of the HID manufacturers in China are poorly managed, uses cheap labour (more risk of defects), uses cheaper raw materials (risk of defects), and fit and finish is poor compared to other Korean / Japanese / German brands. There's a reason why many of these kits (mostly sold on EBAY) are sold for around $200 or $250. It's because it costs that much less to build, many times, cutting corners in areas that shouldn't be cut. Best way to sum it up: "you get what you pay for".

2. OEM / Philips: Direct OEM replacements cost around $600 per one side (over $1000 for both sets). Therefore, many people go to the "next bext thing" = Philips. However, what most people dont know is that Philips do not make variety of sizes. Philip's buyers (like Audi do not use all variations of sizes). This is why many resellers "rebase" the Philips bulbs to make it fit into sizes that are not originally made from Philips factory. There is a risk of product defect because of this modification. This is also another reason that many Philips kit's warranty is only valid from the reseller, and not from Philips head office.

As a comparision, Kaixen manufacturers ALL sizes and colours directly from their manufacturing facility in South Korea. There is no rebasing or modification done outside of the factory, and all warranty is offered directly from Kaixen.


Here are some pictures of other cars with Kaixen HID Kits:




Colours available:
4300K (OEM), 5000K (Crystal Natural), 6000K (Crystal White), 6500K (Crystal Purple), 8500K (Crystal Blue).

Less Kelvins (K) has better Lumens (Brightness).
More Kelvins (K) has more Colours.



And finally, the price:
Group buy price of 10 members:
$299 USD plus $19.95 USD shipping to anywhere in the US / Canada.
Pick up is available for Toronto locations. Pick up price is $299 USD or $350 CAD.


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1. Mars_D ($50 deposit confirmed)
2. Darkangelgrafix ($50 deposit confirmed)
3. sbrcr267 ($50 deposit confirmed)
4. yummybalot ($50 deposit confirmed)
5. ClavoWRX ($50 deposit confirmed)
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8. jjimpreza ($50 deposit confirmed)
9. taerron ($50 deposit confirmed)
10. chlnOrSlpn ($50 deposit confirmed)
11. Black_Sun ($50 deposit confirmed)
12. Red_Devix_Rex ($50 deposit confirmed)

Orders can still be made up until end of this month. please PM for details.

The group buy has a time limit of 1 month from today, or when 10 buyers have been filled.


To secure your placement in the GB, you must send $50 USD via paypal. Email: sales@autodoodad.com When the GB is completed, you must send in the remainder.

It takes 5 to 10 days for Kaixen to prep the HID kits, and another week or so to have them shipped to me. I will than ship them via Express Post (4 business day delivery).
Total expected time of delivery after GB is complete is 2 to 3 weeks.


Feel free to contact me at any time for questions or comments.

Plug and play installation example:





Ok, let me clarify this once and for all for everyone.

'02 ~ '03 WRX (Impreza) takes 9007 application:


9007 is a bixenon application bulb on a bixenon application housing.
Meaning, you do high beam / low beam using one halogen bulb by going from 55 watts to 100 watts.

Why does this matter? - well, by having bixenon application, you get two things:

1. Bulb has to be bixenon (for high beam and low beam)
2. Housing will give off more glare than other counterparts (like H1, and H7).

Fact: Kaixen only has single low beam 9007. Meaning, you will lose high beam function (which is what I have, and dont mind it much - I just honk if someone cuts me off on the road instead of high beamming.

As for glare, you can reduce it little bit by leveling the headlights.
However, as Jimprezza stated .. projector retrofit would be ideal way to go for a good result.



2004 ~ 2005 WRX takes H1 application (most popular).
From the pictures I've seen so far, the Subaru WRX '04 and '05's have the best cut off line I've ever seen on an H1 housing.
Cut off is better than RSX other other H1 housing cars.

And dont worry, you guys use seperate high beam bulb, so theres no worries of high beam / low beam functions.


2006+ WRX takes H7 on projector lens:

Consider yourself lucky. Your car was designed for HID, and it should have HID. You're car is practically begging for it.
Cut off is as best as it can be, and results are excellent.



And yes, these are "plug and play" kits as explained in other pages in this thread.
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Old 02-01-2006, 11:07 AM   #2
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There wouldn't be some kind of shield inside to create a nice cut-off for us bugeye, non-projector style housings, would there??
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Old 02-01-2006, 11:31 AM   #3
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I would be interested.

I have EDM projectors which use an H1 bulb. Are these based for such an application? Or do I need to modify/find adaptors to fit ?

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Old 02-01-2006, 12:42 PM   #4
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There wouldn't be some kind of shield inside to create a nice cut-off for us bugeye, non-projector style housings, would there??
The shielding is available for only H4 housings. This is because H4 bulb base is large enough to install the shield... and typically, only H4 housings "need" the shield. All other housings have cut off refractors built into the housings. - just not great as compared to projectors.

Our H4 shielding looks like this:

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Will these work for MY04 WRX? How much work is involved with an HID conversion for the MY04 WRX?
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Old 02-01-2006, 01:25 PM   #6
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I would be interested.

I have EDM projectors which use an H1 bulb. Are these based for such an application? Or do I need to modify/find adaptors to fit ?

TIA
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Hi Clavo,

No, you dont need to modify anything. All HID kits from Kaixen are factory built and tested before they are shipped out. They are also direct plug and play design applications. Most of our customers takes 30 ~ 40 minutes to install by themselves.

If you want some samples and testimonials of other H1 customers, check out these links to Acura RSX customers:

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...=341647&page=4
http://homepage.mac.com/juatam/PhotoAlbum26.html
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Will these work for MY04 WRX? How much work is involved with an HID conversion for the MY04 WRX?
Definitely. 04 WRX will take H1 bulb size, like most other Japanese cars (including Acura RSX).

Installation - depends on how easy it is for your car to install bulbs. Some people have to take out the bumper, some don't.

As an example, RSX customers took less than 40 minutes to install.
Rx7 customers took a little more (flip up lights).
But never more than 1 hour.

These are direct plug and play design, that just "clips" onto your stock wiring harness. Theres no seperate rewiring to the car batteries like some of the other brands.
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since the my04 wrx doesnt have projectors does the bulbs provide a cutoff? Or does it aim high?
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:17 PM   #9
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I'm curious about the legality of using these in non hid specific headlights. Will these blind oncoming traffic?
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Old 02-01-2006, 04:22 PM   #10
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since the my04 wrx doesnt have projectors does the bulbs provide a cutoff? Or does it aim high?
Good question....we need more info for us that have 04 wrx's. Are they legal in our headlight housing?
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Old 02-01-2006, 05:10 PM   #11
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Good question....we need more info for us that have 04 wrx's. Are they legal in our headlight housing?
Currently, aftermarket HID kits are considered "illegal" for use in non-HID equipped cars. Therefore, all aftermarket HID kits are sold as "off road use only".

There's a whole write up about this at DOT, but basically, this is largely due to people with H4 housings that used HID kits without the glare shield. Philips, as well as many Chinese / Taiwan brands do not have these anti-glare shielding. However, H4 housings are different than other housings. This is because it uses the same bulb for low beam and high beam. With Halogens, this is controlled with power output management.

However, with HID, the power output stays constant. So, what you're getting is HID brightness with high beam housing. This has caused many drivers a lot of problems as it's the same as driving with HIGH BEAM all the time.

This has prompted DOT to illegalize many sales of HID kits for "on road use".

The fact is ... non H4 application housings - like H1's for WRX 04, already have a cut-off refractors built into the housings. They are not "crisp" cut off like using projectors, but they do not cause the "blinding" effect. You will get a "blurred" effect, but it wont be enough to cause excessive glare to blind oncoming traffic.


Another thing you can do is aim the bulbs just slightly lower (only about 5 degrees). This can ensure that you will put more light onto the ground.


If you still want the crisp cut-off line, you can retrofit a set of projectors or get aftermarket housings with projectors.
However, it's not necessary.


Thousands of non HID equipped cars already use HID. As long as you don't use H4 bulbs without anti-glare shielding.. and you install the bulbs correctly, you shouldnt have any problems.

Here are some pictures:


Against wall: (these are from cars without projectors)




Picture of 2004 Hyundai Equus (does not have projectors)



Picture of BMW 7 series (with projectors)





If you search other forums or google.. you can find lots of pictures of cars equipped with HID (without projectors).

Most of the reasons why some people get glare is not because of the HID kit, but rather, because they installed it too high (bulb is aiming up), or they used H4 bulbs on H4 housing without the anti-glare shield. This is why a lot of the older Civics that you see on the road with HID - gives so much glare. Or even Scion xB, Scion xA ... Rx7... etc.. they all have H4 bulbs. IF they use any HID kit that doesnt have the shield ... its like driving with high beam X 3 .
= attract attention from cops, and cause unsafe glare (blinding) for everyone.

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I'm extremely interested in this GB. Please check your PM. I maybe one of the first to bite.
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Old 02-01-2006, 05:49 PM   #13
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Amazing kit. I never thought I would see a plug and play kit made available, and especialy not for 300 bux. What happens if we enter the group buy and you don't get 10 buyers?

Would anyone happen to know what Kelvin the stock STI HID bulbs are?
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Old 02-01-2006, 06:04 PM   #14
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Amazing kit. I never thought I would see a plug and play kit made available, and especialy not for 300 bux. What happens if we enter the group buy and you don't get 10 buyers?

Would anyone happen to know what Kelvin the stock STI HID bulbs are?
I dont think you need to worry about not getting 10 buyers.
I've noticed.. that it's either you get great response, or you get none.
I have sponsored over 20 forums so far, and it's either...

1. members dont know what HID is
2. members know about HID, but they just want the cheapest one possible (mostly for civics, integras, domestics, etc). - I just leave this market to the Chinese / taiwan brands that can offer the cheap prices.
3. members know about HID, and they want the highest possible quality HID kit at affordable prices. - mostly high end cars, or exotics / collectibles.
90% of ours sales comes from this category.


The more you research about different HID brands... the more you can find out. Most of our buyers are well educated HID buyers. IF not, I can inform them as well.

There are many tricks that HID resellers use. Some make statements like "#1 ***one HID kit" - giving the impression that their HID kits are "#1" while its actually saying that the name of their kit is "#1". Some like to not disclose where their kits are made from. Some like to defend their quality by saying "look at our pictures, they have nice colour".

But the real test of quality comes... when those colours dont fade out so fast. All HID bulbs will fade colour. Quality kits like KAixen will last for 3 years without colour fading.

Some likes to use American brands - like McCullochs. But the truth is.... they are owned and operated by JennFeng Industrials of Taiwan. The funny thing is, they dont even have a factory in Taiwan for HID. They buy it from China, rebrand it in Taiwan as "McCulloch" and sell them in North America as an "American brand".

So anyway, I'm going off track here..

If Subaru owners are more about quality / performance than looks and price, I'm confident that the Group Buy will go smoothly.

If not, don't worry, the GB time limit is 1 month, so even if I have 3 buyers after 1 month, the order will still go through at the advertised price.


As for STI Kelvin - it should be 4100K or 4300K. Very rarely, does auto manufacturers use higher than 4300K for their cars. At the same time... Honda S2000 stock OEM Kelvin is 6000K.
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Does this kit still present the same problem with the beam pattern of using HID bulbs with non-HID reflectors in the stock headlight housing?

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I don't know much at all about HID so please help explain. Do you need to have projector headlights on the 02/03 WRX. Or will these work with the factory headlamps.

I am interested if they are plug and play and fit the 03.

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Does this kit still present the same problem with the beam pattern of using HID bulbs with non-HID reflectors in the stock headlight housing?

Thanks
As described in my statements above, there's no difference in brand when it comes to beam pattern. The difference in HID brand comes when comparing overall fit and finish of the kits, quality material, longevity of the bulbs and colour (from fading), no defects from ballasts (if light flickers, its mostly due to bad ballasts), whether its plug and play.. etc.

When using HID in non-HID reflectors in the stock housings.. you are getting a "burn" effect. Meaning, your light beam will not be "projected" onto the road like projectors do. They will burn out throughout the headlight and onto the road.

See pictures from the RSX customer (link above in my prevoius replies).


They still do light up the road like HID kits on HID projectors, just more wider.
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I don't know much at all about HID so please help explain. Do you need to have projector headlights on the 02/03 WRX. Or will these work with the factory headlamps.

I am interested if they are plug and play and fit the 03.

Thanks
Yes, it will work with factory headlamps just fine.
All Kaixen Kits are plug and play and fit the 03.
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New update:
The Group Buy does not have to be filled up in order to have your kit ordered.
I have 4 order dates per month - every Tuesday. So, if anyone wants one, just pay me $50 deposit : sales@autodoodad.com before Tuesday,and your kit will be ordered.

Faster delivery for everyone.

The list of 10 will go on.
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Hmm I'm pretty interested in these.. Have any pictures of them in a 02/03 stock housing?
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Hmm I'm pretty interested in these.. Have any pictures of them in a 02/03 stock housing?
This is the first time I'm doing a sale for Subaru owners. Lots of pics for BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Mazda Rx7, RSX, etc, but not Subaru.

Hence, im doing this special group buy, so that some of the members here can get them, take pics, and provide review, like the other forums. There's a lot of positive feedback on our kits from previous customers.
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Hello Autodoodad.com
I am interested in this HID kit for my 04 WRX.
However I do want to ask how would on go about getting a replacement bulb when the time is needed?
Also what is the most popular color people opt for? I am personally looking at the 5000K or 6000K. What are your thoughts to this?

Thanks
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New update:
The Group Buy does not have to be filled up in order to have your kit ordered.
I have 4 order dates per month - every Tuesday. So, if anyone wants one, just pay me $50 deposit : sales@autodoodad.com before Tuesday,and your kit will be ordered.

Faster delivery for everyone.

The list of 10 will go on.
So I may get mine sooner? Cool!
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I need to clarify:

This will work well on a non-projector headlight from the 02/03 bugeyes? Or, will it be decent with a poor cutoff?
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Hello Autodoodad.com
I am interested in this HID kit for my 04 WRX.
However I do want to ask how would on go about getting a replacement bulb when the time is needed?
Also what is the most popular color people opt for? I am personally looking at the 5000K or 6000K. What are your thoughts to this?

Thanks
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Hi Eric,

HID bulbs lasts 10 times longer than halogens, and they usually last 3-5 years or more depending on how much you use them (also depends on if you use them as your DRL as some cars do).

Most of the HID bulbs that burn out faster (around 1000 hours) are the ones that are not waterproof or just poor quality to begin with.

But if you do want them replaced, the bulbs are $150 USD plus $10 shipping.

Before, some companies have recently started to claim that their bulbs are Made in Korea, or that they are outsourced from Kaixen. - This is completely false, as Kaixen does not sell its bulbs to any other company.


Lastly... 6000K is the most popular colour. However... it really depends on the car group. 300zx guys for example, get 4300K (about 90% of them do). While Rx7 buys get 6000K, as well as RSX guys.
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