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Old 09-19-2001, 10:37 AM   #1
sgallo
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Question Shop manual

I would like to have an OEM shop manual for my '99 Legacy but, if I recall, the dealer said that it cost ~$600. Does anybody have an explanation for this insanity? Every other car I've owned (Volvo, Mazda, Eagle) had a manual available for under $80. When I met my wife, she had an '80 Subaru DL. I bought a Hanes (I think) for it and it was fairly useless for troubleshooting an electrical problem with the AC so my impression is that the Hanes and Chilton types don't have enough detail to be very useful.
I am open to suggestions.
Typically, I have the dealer work on my car while it is under warranty and then I start to do the work myself but I am very apprehensive about this car because it only has 22K on it and I just had to drop $500 on top of some warranty work on the clutch. Turns out the pressure plate was warped. Because of that clutch and flywheel got burned, but they would only warrantee the PP and labor. At first the service manager tried to blame me for "poor clutch control" (I've never had a clutch last less than 70K). Then I pointed out to him that the burn marks on the PP only went half way around indicating that it was warped. He agreed but then said that the flywheel could not be resurface because it is too thin and it was not warranted because it is considered a wear item. Not knowing enough about it to argue, I had it replaced along with the clutch and throw out bearing. Now it sounds like the TOB is making noise and I don't know if I trust this dealer enough to have them deal with it.

Thanks for the space,
Steve
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Old 09-19-2001, 09:20 PM   #2
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They're probably real high because they come in several manuals. General, body/exterior, electrical, drivetrain, etc. I think there's a total of 6 manuals for the car. The way they do it, though, is they produced the manuals starting with MY95. That body style of Legacy is current for MY95 through MY99. Subaru produces supplemental manuals to cover any changes for each additonal year. Therefore, you'd be buying the shop manuals for the 95's, with the supplements/addendums for MY99. I think that's why the cost is so high.

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Old 09-20-2001, 02:08 AM   #3
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Steve, Rich

hmm.. I've asked my local dealer ... both service and parts staff ... and have been told they are not available to anyone other than subaru dealerships ... ...

I understand the shop manuals are burned on CD's .... if that's the case and we could buy them ... would be nice if a group of us could split the cost and share as needed ...

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Old 09-20-2001, 07:23 AM   #4
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....... The way they do it, though, is they produced the manuals starting with MY95. That body style of Legacy is current for MY95 through MY99. Subaru produces supplemental manuals to cover any changes for each additonal year. Therefore, you'd be buying the shop manuals for the 95's, with the supplements/addendums for MY99. I think that's why the cost is so high.

Rich
Umm.. wouldn't that lower their costs by not replicating the same information over and over?
The manual for my motorcycle is done that way and it was 10 times less than what Subaru wants.
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Old 09-20-2001, 07:31 AM   #5
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Steve, Rich

hmm.. I've asked my local dealer ... both service and parts staff ... and have been told they are not available to anyone other than subaru dealerships ... ...

I understand the shop manuals are burned on CD's .... if that's the case and we could buy them ... would be nice if a group of us could split the cost and share as needed ...

Charlie
Charlie,
As I understand it, the only thing that you woldn't get are the TSB's that the manuals make reference to.
As for your sharing idea, that may be an option if enough people (say >=6) are interested.

Steve
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