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Old 02-03-2006, 03:45 PM   #1
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Question which year model impreza chassis to biuld on?

I will be selling my Rs soon for a forester. after I get the forester I'm going to buy another 2-door coupe. I'm trying to decide what year to get from the standpoint of emissions, etc. (thankfully they don't inspect in AR)
Here's the project: Take an impreza coupe and make it look similiar to a 22b, particularly the front and rear bumpers and flaired fenders.
The motor- fully biult EJ257 turbo w/ FMIC and ??lbs of boost until I get 540 WHP and similiar torque numbers dyno tuned of course. this power will be fed through a carbon on carbon clutch to a (possibly modified if necessary for reliability/durability) STi 6-speed. STi lsd diffs front and rear with sti 5x114 hubs, brakes (modified w/ slotted rotors and good pads) and all the rest of the STi driveline. (ok, brakes aren't driveline but you know what I mean).
coilover suspension, interior swap, blah, blah.
In other words nothing on the car is going to be the same after I'm done (probably gonna be seem welded and caged too) so should I just get a 95 brighton coupe or is there a particular reason to get a newer model impreza?
thanks for reading this novel....now for your thoughts
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and I won't be driving the car everyday, just working on it since i'll have the forsester.
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Old 02-03-2006, 05:23 PM   #2
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why dont you buy soon2bgreat's car or some other monster big budget'ed swapped 2 door. theres lots running around. save yourself money too.
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Old 02-03-2006, 05:36 PM   #3
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There's some good info here...

http://www.rs25.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40838



Don't think you'll need to register to read it.
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Old 02-05-2006, 02:57 PM   #4
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why dont you buy soon2bgreat's car or some other monster big budget'ed swapped 2 door. theres lots running around. save yourself money too.
I don't want to buy somebody elses car because I can't upfront the money and I would rather biuld my car myself. I can afford to pay it out over time if I do (most) of the swap myself

Looked at the thread and its like everybody says L model but nobody seemed to mention the 1.8 brighton coupe, is there a reason like the wiring is too different or something?
thanks.
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Old 02-05-2006, 04:12 PM   #5
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I don't want to buy somebody elses car because I can't upfront the money and I would rather biuld my car myself. I can afford to pay it out over time if I do (most) of the swap myself

Looked at the thread and its like everybody says L model but nobody seemed to mention the 1.8 brighton coupe, is there a reason like the wiring is too different or something?
thanks.
The brighton coupe isn't much harder in terms of wiring. They're harder to find and are a little more lightweight than some of the L's.
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Old 02-05-2006, 05:09 PM   #6
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If weight is your concern, find a 93-96 that doesn't have ABS
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Old 02-05-2006, 05:10 PM   #7
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i figure since they (BRIGHTON COUPE) had less options I could get one cheaper so then that is what ill do.
thanks everydody
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Old 02-05-2006, 09:26 PM   #8
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I started with a brighton. You will have to add things like a tach, new control arms in the rear so you can add a anti-sway bay, no right mirror (fine with me) rear drums, no abs. I love mine.
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:37 AM   #9
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95 or older no obd-2
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Old 02-06-2006, 04:10 AM   #10
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i agree... 93-95. Since its OBD-1 all you have to pass is the sniffer and that is it.

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Old 02-06-2006, 07:54 AM   #11
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loks good, but it will have to be a 95 since I don't think they made the coupe before then if I remember correctly.

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I started with a brighton. You will have to add things like a tach, new control arms in the rear so you can add a anti-sway bay, no right mirror (fine with me) rear drums, no abs. I love mine.
these aren't a problem as I have to change all that stuff anyway when I put in the STi parts and I should be able to get a tach with the interior swap, although I'm thinking of doing a custom interior...... not sure how doable that is but i'll search
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Old 02-06-2006, 07:57 AM   #12
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oh and come to think of it wont I get OBD 2 when i swap in the new ECU and whatnot? that would be the best of both worlds, getting tested as obd1 but having all the capabilities of obd2 (but like I said they don't test in AR, but if I ever move)
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Old 02-06-2006, 10:06 AM   #13
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oh and come to think of it wont I get OBD 2 when i swap in the new ECU and whatnot? that would be the best of both worlds, getting tested as obd1 but having all the capabilities of obd2 (but like I said they don't test in AR, but if I ever move)
For that kind of power, you'll probably want an aftermarket ECU. None of the ones I've seen are OBDII
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Old 02-06-2006, 03:56 PM   #14
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no jdm is obd2, usdm is a friendly obd2 option though
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Old 02-06-2006, 04:50 PM   #15
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Ok I guess I'll be looking into my ECu options come swaptime....
about the abs though. Its kind of a nice thing to have in certain situations-would the abs system from an STi or another impreza work in this application? its not really a big deal as the car won't be a daily driver (more than likely won't be anyway lotsa horsepower can be addictive I've heard) just would be nice. and I could run a switch off the fuse box to deactivate ABS with just the flip of button/switch. that would be kinda cool especially if the ABS light didn't come on.

has anybody done a completely custom interior/gauges around here? like autometer speedo, tach, etc.
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Old 02-07-2006, 12:44 AM   #16
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I thought V7 and up was OBDII compliant

Ill need this info if anyone can confirm. Also what is the cutoff for only having to pass the sniffer? is it 95? And is this for all states? I'm in IL
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Old 02-07-2006, 06:41 AM   #17
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why not just get a non-abs to begin with. if you are trying to shave weight, thats a good way to get rid of an ugly thing. the abs guy also takes the space of a IC water spray holder tank. not cool
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Old 02-07-2006, 03:41 PM   #18
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When it comes to weight I'm more concerned with getting the car as close to 50:50 weight distribution than flat out making the car as light as possibly unless someboby can explain otherwise I believe 2800-2900 lb. car that is as close as possible to 50:50 will handle better than a car that weigh 2500-2600 but is not any better balanced than stock. Jus curious about that, and I guess I wont have ABS...
*goes to the interior furom for gauge info*
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Old 02-07-2006, 05:45 PM   #19
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run heavy rear bumper beam, battar to trunk, giant wing, r180 diff, and then run a NA 2.5 motor in the front with skimpy everything. that might be close to 50-50. i dont know if its possible to do a true 50-50 with an impreza, sombody with a cornerweight scale might be able to share their exierancfe
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run heavy rear bumper beam, battar to trunk, giant wing, r180 diff, and then run a NA 2.5 motor in the front with skimpy everything. that might be close to 50-50. i dont know if its possible to do a true 50-50 with an impreza, sombody with a cornerweight scale might be able to share their exierancfe
I've never seen a 50/50 Impreza...

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Old 02-08-2006, 01:10 AM   #21
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the above is a 96 brighton full swap. this brighton came with obd2. r180, brembos and the dash. the dash doesnt fit too well because it has the old style door cards from the 93-95/6 L. rs door cards fit with the new dash but they are hard to find and cost over 350 each side. that car with stock sti swap is verry fast and i mean verry fast. i dont know why you want 540 horsepower, with a car that weighs nothing 300 is just fine
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Old 02-08-2006, 08:30 AM   #22
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there's a free coupe in mid-atlantic...its located in PA and needs a rear quarter panel...
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Old 02-08-2006, 09:53 PM   #23
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i would buy 93 to 98 and do a right hand drive conversion with a jdm motor
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Old 02-09-2006, 11:15 AM   #24
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there's a free coupe in mid-atlantic...its located in PA and needs a rear quarter panel...
hook me up with that would ya?

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i dont know why you want 540 horsepower, with a car that weighs nothing 300 is just fine
thats almost as good as my dad's "I don't know why you want more power you can only go the speed limit"
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Old 02-09-2006, 12:14 PM   #25
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this whole thread could be answered by

you are looking for the elusive 95 brighton coupe rather rare but very desirable AWD -rear disk

prefection would be a red one (most of the other colors are aweful) with black interior
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