Getting Protuned, help me prepare

03mbpREX · 02-09-2006, 07:40 PM

im going to get my 06 wrx protuned next month. I have stage 2 right now. I have full turboback, and headers. Is there any parts that I should get now before I get protuned to make the most out of it. like intake , pulley, hoses, etc.... I want to make the most out of my stage 2, so what parts will I make some power with besides my headers and turboback

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hondaeater69 · 02-09-2006, 07:43 PM

Tmic Ftw.

03mbpREX · 02-09-2006, 08:09 PM

what kind? I dont wanna spend alot of money on one. are the ebay ones worth it? if so which one? or is an sti one just fine.?

hondaeater69 · 02-09-2006, 08:49 PM

skip the STi, Ebay, or used name brand ftw.

mpower22 · 02-09-2006, 09:13 PM

http://www.projectwrx.com/modules.p...showpage&pid=35

once you have your parts....MAKE SURE TO GO THROUGH THIS CHECKLIST....

really things you should do anytime you tune a car......

Geeoff · 02-09-2006, 09:34 PM

^Link not working

mpower22 · 02-09-2006, 10:34 PM

http://www.projectwrx.com/modules.ph...howpage&pid=35

titsataki · 02-09-2006, 10:45 PM

this sounds like a golden rule list.

BigJ04STi · 02-10-2006, 10:05 AM

If you're gonna spend the money on tuning... why not add a few more power adders. The tunng charge will be the same either way, but in the end you might be happier with your tune and never want another...

Otherwise... you get tuned on the header and turboback, and decide later on to add a TMIC, Intake, turbo inlet, etc etc... and need to get retuned again.

markuswelby · 02-10-2006, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigJ04STi

If you're gonna spend the money on tuning... why not add a few more power adders. The tunng charge will be the same either way, but in the end you might be happier with your tune and never want another...

Otherwise... you get tuned on the header and turboback, and decide later on to add a TMIC, Intake, turbo inlet, etc etc... and need to get retuned again.

Could not agree more!!! I got my 05 WRX Protuned about 5 months ago and am now putting on a VF39 and dare not drive my car for more than a few days without getting another Harman tune. This time i did even more homework tho.
i would also be careful of headers, they do give more power but u will lose more bottom end.

Tanj! · 02-10-2006, 12:35 PM

Big +1 for the top mount. It's the only thing I didn't do before my protune that I know regret with the 2.5L and the TD04. Without it you will max out at around 13psi on the TD04. With it Jarrad from PDX said 15psi is achievable. If you have any thought that you might want an intake get it done too. Intakes can/do change the maf readings and your tuner can fine tune this when he is doing your car. If you want a CAI i'd suggest tracking down one the older non 65 APS black CAI's since they flow more air. You however shouldn't put it on the car right before you're ready to tune since it's not the correct size for factory. I'm going to assume that your headers replaced/removed that cat in your uppipe. If not I'd suggest that too. Also talk to your tuner about spark plugs and if they recommend going one step colder. Jarrad said I could go one step colder and get some advantage but not full advantage b/c my setup wasn't going to push it that hard. Some tuners like the one step colder plugs others don't. Best to pick your tuner's brain on that. Pulley’s hoses and other misc things like that aren’t going to make such a radical difference that the ECU can’t learn for them. The three biggies though are the top mount, intake, uppipe, and plugs if recommended. You also might want to think long and hard about spending the money on a VF39 for the “STI” upgrade. I decided to skip that part since I knew I would ultimately jump to a bigger turbo than that and the TD04 tuned for the moment was worth the money.

Don't worry about the headers. On the 2.5L motor with that tiny td04 you have insta spool anyways and should have nice torque. Here is my dyno sheet. I think you will be happy with your protune once you get it done.

markuswelby · 02-10-2006, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanj!

Big +1 for the top mount. It's the only thing I didn't do before my protune that I know regret with the 2.5L and the TD04. Without it you will max out at around 13psi on the TD04. With it Jarrad from PDX said 15psi is achievable. If you have any thought that you might want an intake get it done too. Intakes can/do change the maf readings and your tuner can fine tune this when he is doing your car. If you want a CAI i'd suggest tracking down one the older non 65 APS black CAI's since they flow more air. You however shouldn't put it on the car right before you're ready to tune since it's not the correct size for factory. I'm going to assume that your headers replaced/removed that cat in your uppipe. If not I'd suggest that too. Also talk to your tuner about spark plugs and if they recommend going one step colder. Jarrad said I could go one step colder and get some advantage but not full advantage b/c my setup wasn't going to push it that hard. Some tuners like the one step colder plugs others don't. Best to pick your tuner's brain on that. Pulley’s hoses and other misc things like that aren’t going to make such a radical difference that the ECU can’t learn for them. The three biggies though are the top mount, intake, uppipe, and plugs if recommended. You also might want to think long and hard about spending the money on a VF39 for the “STI” upgrade. I decided to skip that part since I knew I would ultimately jump to a bigger turbo than that and the TD04 tuned for the moment was worth the money.

Don't worry about the headers. On the 2.5L motor with that tiny td04 you have insta spool anyways and should have nice torque. Here is my dyno sheet. I think you will be happy with your protune once you get it done.

HA HA, yea, i am one of those unlucky fools that has an 05 WRX and has to live with under 300whp...

that is ok, there are worse things.

blinguskahn · 02-10-2006, 01:40 PM

Get a VF-34/39.

03mbpREX · 02-10-2006, 04:26 PM

theres many ebay tmic's how do I know which one is the better one?? I was thinking of adding cobb sf intake, pulley, and ic hoses before I get tuned, are these parts worth it??

markuswelby · 02-10-2006, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blinguskahn

Get a VF-34/39.

Exactly what is sitting in my office. Have the Walbro and pinks at home...
just need to buck up for the install and the tune...
on CA pump i will probably still be under 300whp tho. I figure if i can break into the 12s on my car i will be all kinds of happy.

03mbpREX · 02-10-2006, 04:45 PM

is the tmic on ebay, one by ssautochrome the one everyone says is good, or the one by x02 racing the one thats better?. If so can both these intercoolers fit the stock Y pipe?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/02-04...QQcmdZViewItem

dankster · 02-10-2006, 05:22 PM

You might want to get an upgraded boost control solenoid. I've read you can get faster spool that way. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can explain.

Tanj! · 02-10-2006, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03mbpREX

If so can both these intercoolers fit the stock Y pipe?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/02-04...QQcmdZViewItem

Good that you brought that up I'd forgotten about that. We basically get the shaft and none of the WRX or STI y-pipes work for us (2.5L w/ TD04). Either you will need to get a specific y pipe OR be prepared to cuss a bit with silicon hoses to get things to fit correctly. I don't know the specifics off the top of my head not having done it yet but I do know neither of those (or any other top mount) is a direct drop in for us unless they specifically say they will fit the FXT/06 WRX. Also the recirc valve is different on our cars from the WRX and STI so you need to either get another recirc/bov or switch to the STI/WRX fitment along with the appropriate hoses.

*edit* A quick look around indicates that Gruppe-S might have an FXT fitment kit available for top mounts. Might be worth calling them to source the correct parts for fitment. *edit*

GTSJOE · 02-10-2006, 07:59 PM

pm,d you about a perrin tmic w/ bov

GTSJOE · 02-10-2006, 08:00 PM

you should also get a light weight crank pulley not a underdrive

03mbpREX · 02-10-2006, 08:58 PM

whats a good lightweight pulley to get, also im gonna order the x02 tmic, will the stock BOV fit?, ive been searching but coming up empty.

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titsataki Scooby Specialist Member#: 4402 Join Date: Feb 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: New Haven, Connecticut Vehicle: 2009 Outback XT DGM	this sounds like a golden rule list.

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BigJ04STi Scooby Specialist Member#: 77239 Join Date: Dec 2004 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: A Town Vehicle: 2004 Impreza WRX None	If you're gonna spend the money on tuning... why not add a few more power adders. The tunng charge will be the same either way, but in the end you might be happier with your tune and never want another... Otherwise... you get tuned on the header and turboback, and decide later on to add a TMIC, Intake, turbo inlet, etc etc... and need to get retuned again.

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Tanj! Scooby Specialist Member#: 9339 Join Date: Aug 2001 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Dallas, Texas Vehicle: 2005 Forester XT 80, 86, 87, and 88 RX-7	Big +1 for the top mount. It's the only thing I didn't do before my protune that I know regret with the 2.5L and the TD04. Without it you will max out at around 13psi on the TD04. With it Jarrad from PDX said 15psi is achievable. If you have any thought that you might want an intake get it done too. Intakes can/do change the maf readings and your tuner can fine tune this when he is doing your car. If you want a CAI i'd suggest tracking down one the older non 65 APS black CAI's since they flow more air. You however shouldn't put it on the car right before you're ready to tune since it's not the correct size for factory. I'm going to assume that your headers replaced/removed that cat in your uppipe. If not I'd suggest that too. Also talk to your tuner about spark plugs and if they recommend going one step colder. Jarrad said I could go one step colder and get some advantage but not full advantage b/c my setup wasn't going to push it that hard. Some tuners like the one step colder plugs others don't. Best to pick your tuner's brain on that. Pulley’s hoses and other misc things like that aren’t going to make such a radical difference that the ECU can’t learn for them. The three biggies though are the top mount, intake, uppipe, and plugs if recommended. You also might want to think long and hard about spending the money on a VF39 for the “STI” upgrade. I decided to skip that part since I knew I would ultimately jump to a bigger turbo than that and the TD04 tuned for the moment was worth the money. Don't worry about the headers. On the 2.5L motor with that tiny td04 you have insta spool anyways and should have nice torque. Here is my dyno sheet. I think you will be happy with your protune once you get it done.

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blinguskahn Scooby Specialist Member#: 39301 Join Date: Jul 2003 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: The Haystack Vehicle: STi 05 8cm FPRed WRX 06 Blue FP20G	Get a VF-34/39.

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03mbpREX Scooby Newbie Member#: 33953 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Vehicle: 2011 WRX SWP	is the tmic on ebay, one by ssautochrome the one everyone says is good, or the one by x02 racing the one thats better?. If so can both these intercoolers fit the stock Y pipe? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo...QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/02-04...QQcmdZViewItem

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dankster Scooby Newbie Member#: 54592 Join Date: Feb 2004 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: pittsburgh	You might want to get an upgraded boost control solenoid. I've read you can get faster spool that way. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can explain.

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03mbpREX Scooby Newbie Member#: 33953 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Vehicle: 2011 WRX SWP	whats a good lightweight pulley to get, also im gonna order the x02 tmic, will the stock BOV fit?, ive been searching but coming up empty.