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Old 02-11-2006, 05:44 PM   #1
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Default How competetive do you think the '06 WRX will be in D Stock?

Just curious what everybodys opinions are on the competetiveness of the '06 WRX in D Stock. Will it run with the Type R and 330?
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Old 02-11-2006, 05:55 PM   #2
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I don't think it'll carry enough tire to compete with the E46 330ZHP and E90 330.
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Old 02-11-2006, 05:57 PM   #3
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I don't think it'll carry enough tire to compete with the E46 330ZHP and E90 330.
I thought the 330ZHP was B Stock? I just figured the extra horsepower and bigger brakes might get the WRX a bit closer to the front runners.
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Old 02-11-2006, 06:12 PM   #4
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Bigger brakes? Uh, that might help fade more but I can't tell you the last time I had brake fade on an autox course. Extra horsepower: It isn't much, but a little helps. The biggest difference is when the power comes on and the change in power curve.

But yes, I'm with ChrisDP: I don't think it can hang either. Locally/regionally could be fun though.

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Old 02-11-2006, 06:15 PM   #5
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I thought the 330ZHP was B Stock? I just figured the extra horsepower and bigger brakes might get the WRX a bit closer to the front runners.
Only the rears are bigger and besides, braking is limited by traction, not stopping power on our cars. There is no reason, on identical tires, that the 06 will stop any shorter than any previous version.

I agree that it will be a fair amount quicker in DS with its new found low end. But that really depends on the layout of the run. Maybe no so much at the national level and their flowing courses.
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Old 02-11-2006, 06:51 PM   #6
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1/2" wider wheel than before and more torque (and earlier) will certainly help
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Old 02-11-2006, 10:04 PM   #7
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I will be trying the 06 in DS this year. I guess the first question I would have is, how far off was the previous models? So far the closest thing I have had to compare to that was prepped was a 05 SRT-4 ACR on Hoosiers last year. I got him barely and I was stock on some borrowed Conti-Sports. (Thanks Tara)

This year I have updated the suspension and sway bar and will be on 710s, so it should help. Hopefully I will be get the oppurtunity to run against a Type R close by, but I have not seen any 330s close to my region. Are the 330 and Type R close to each other?

Has anyone installed 710s on the 06 yet? If so, how do they fit?

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Old 02-11-2006, 10:56 PM   #8
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1/2" wider wheel than before and more torque (and earlier) will certainly help
Agreed. The extra torque down low, and wider stock wheels will allow bigger r-compound tires to fit.

I'll be competing with my stock '06 as well in D-stock. Doubt I'll be too competitive during the first half of the season as I won't be able to get a spare set of wheels and r-compound rubber until somtime in the summer... Maybe I'll try and pick up some cheap RE070's from an STI owner. They should fit on the 17x7 wheels w/o any issues and offer up a lot more grip than the stock RE92's...
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Old 02-12-2006, 12:29 AM   #9
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I drove a stock '06 WRX on a AX course ... I was surprised at how lame it felt. The engine was very flat ... didn't have the turbo oomph of the earlier models. I really didn't feel the extra torque?
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I drove a stock '06 WRX on a AX course ... I was surprised at how lame it felt. The engine was very flat ... didn't have the turbo oomph of the earlier models. I really didn't feel the extra torque?
How a car 'feels' is definitely a relative statement. If your '03 WRX wagon is heavily modded, any stock '06 WRX would feel kinda lame... Heck, even an STI might feel lame depending on your car's state of tune.

However, dynos have confirmed that the '06 makes 25+ more whp and a 50+ more wtq than a comparably stock '02-'05 WRX. Just go to Cobb's website and look up their plots done on the same in-house Mustang dyno.
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Old 02-12-2006, 01:14 AM   #11
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I'm sure it is more powerful ... just don't feel it because their is less turbo power surge. I drove some other stock '05 WRX's that same day. My WRX also doesn't have that stock surge ... being tuned for smoother earlier power delivery. I guess I was just trying to say that the edgy'er raw'er power that attracted a lot of us to WRX's is gone. Yes, it will be interesting to see how the '06's do
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Old 02-12-2006, 02:49 AM   #12
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With a great driver I believe it could on a regional level IF it is prepared correctly. Big bar up front, 275 width V710's and custom valved Koni's would help.

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Old 02-12-2006, 07:59 AM   #13
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noone's mentioned the lack of camber yet! huh?

Until you can get -2 of front camber or more it is going to be a challenge, big front bar or not. But it is poosible to have a good local car with the right driver
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Are people going to be able to fit 275s on the 7"wheel w/o modification?
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Old 02-12-2006, 11:47 AM   #15
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With a great driver I believe it could on a regional level IF it is prepared correctly. Big bar up front, 275 width V710's and custom valved Koni's would help.

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I thought you might be running an 06 WRX DS car this year then I read that you were driving an STI in the WDCR events. Did you buy an 06 or are you waiting on a buyer for the TypeR?
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Old 02-12-2006, 11:58 AM   #16
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Andy-

Yeah, I've decided to drive with Nate Small in his STi for 2006. I wanted to play with some HP and Nate wanted some help to fine tune his driving this year so it works well for both of us. I expect that we have a shot at the WDCR series this year and a Divisional or Tour win (especially a Pro-Solo). We are currently working on optimising the suspension on his car to get rid of the steady state push. Once we can solve that the car with be another 1-2 seconds faster

I decided against the 06 WRX for now. I drive too much and the fuel bill would support a small Micronesian country. I still have the ITR in storage. I didn't think it would sell right away, I expect it go be gone in the late spring though. I sold my WRX wagon last week and picked up a Mazdaspeed Protege' that I am prepping for STX and daily driving. It gets 28-31mpg highway so it's economical. It pulls harder than the ITR out of turns too. So look for me to terrorize the local STX guys a bit with a FWD car.

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noooo! My stage 2 05 WRX got 29mpg highway. Silly Mazda!
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Old 02-12-2006, 12:27 PM   #18
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So look for me to terrorize the local STX guys a bit with a FWD car.
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My STX WRX gets 28-31mpg on the highway. It's all in driving style.

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I sold my WRX wagon last week and picked up a Mazdaspeed Protege' that I am prepping for STX and daily driving. It gets 28-31mpg highway so it's economical. It pulls harder than the ITR out of turns too. So look for me to terrorize the local STX guys a bit with a FWD car.
Congrats. Those are amazing front wheel drive cars! There was one that competed in D-Stock in my local SCCA chapter that turned faster times than an '05 Lotus Elise in Super Stock...
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My STX WRX gets 28-31mpg on the highway. It's all in driving style.

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Going 65 though....

I don't have what it takes to put cruise on in the right lane and get past by everything...I try every day, I just can't do it. Looks like 20 mpg for me!
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Old 02-12-2006, 01:48 PM   #22
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I don't think it'll ... compete with the E46 330ZHP ...
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The ZHP was moved down from BS this year. I think the 330 (even without the ZHP package) is faster than the R. With ZHP it should win DS. Brian Fitzpatrick recently said the same thing on sccaforums.
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Old 02-12-2006, 06:45 PM   #23
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Brians ITR was stolen. I'd expect to see Brian in a 330 shortly.

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Well part of the reasoning on buying the MSP is much cheaper insurance, cheaper car to; I only paid 12k for it with 27k miles on it. Hell the thing still has the new car smell in it. The guy put some mods on the car that were very well done. MBC, SS-AFC, down-pipe with high flow cat, Greddy cat-back, Catz Zeta headlight ballasts, Sirius Radio, and NGK plugs. On top of that the guy took VERY good care of the car. It was spotless. Not dings, dents, rubs or anything. I just ordered a bunch of stuff for it; coilivers, rear sway bar, engine mounts, endlinks, Magnecor plug wires, clutch line, ss brake lines, and soon some 16x8 Rotas to stuff some 245's on. I think the MSP is a good platform, 2800 lbs on 245 tires, ltd slip, 180lb/ft torque to the wheels with engine mgt. Should be fun when the STi is not available.

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