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View Poll Results: Which comes first?
Gauges 11 37.93%
Engine Management 18 62.07%
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Old 02-11-2006, 08:08 PM   #1
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just installed my uppipe (thanks for everything paul) and now i look to engine management. the question at hand: should i get gauges first or engine management? im going to get boost, egt and oil press.
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Old 02-11-2006, 09:59 PM   #2
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....EM....and get the(much debated)oil TEMPERATURE gauge.....unless you are actually WATCHING the pressure as it drops---if something breaks.....ya 'aint gonna catch it in time to save the motor, anyway.

the TEMP gauge is usefull in knowing when the engine has reached true operating temperature.....and it takes longer than ya think
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Old 02-11-2006, 10:35 PM   #3
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ya i vote EM first too.

however, gauges shouldnt be far behind

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Old 02-12-2006, 09:49 PM   #4
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That's not even up for debate. EM FTW.
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Old 02-13-2006, 04:11 PM   #5
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let me get this straight, You guys are telling people to get EM before they purchase Guages. I would say get at least a boost guage before you get EM just to be sure things are going good. I mean not everyone is going to put the utec on and datalog there first pull to check out there psi. So I vote guages first
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:00 PM   #6
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let me get this straight, You guys are telling people to get EM before they purchase Guages. I would say get at least a boost guage before you get EM just to be sure things are going good. I mean not everyone is going to put the utec on and datalog there first pull to check out there psi. So I vote guages first

reason i vote EM first is here, two situations:

1.) you get gauges first. Now, there are outcomes: a.) find out ish is all out of wack. Now you have to go get a tune to correct the problem. Or b.) you get gagues and find out everything is fine. prob end up getting the tune anywa.

2.) You get EM first. Your car is professionally tuned, including boost maps. THis way, you know your car is in proper tuned condition and you can get gauges to verify over the long run.


You see, in step 2 you leave no room for a mis-tune.
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:09 PM   #7
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reason i vote EM first is here, two situations:

1.) you get gauges first. Now, there are outcomes: a.) find out ish is all out of wack. Now you have to go get a tune to correct the problem. Or b.) you get gagues and find out everything is fine. prob end up getting the tune anywa.

2.) You get EM first. Your car is professionally tuned, including boost maps. THis way, you know your car is in proper tuned condition and you can get gauges to verify over the long run.


You see, in step 2 you leave no room for a mis-tune.
Ok but alot of people dont have the luxury of just getting tuned as soon as they get the EM. when I had my utec I didnt get tuned for a whole year because of my location and i relied on my guages to let me know what was going on to keep me safe.
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Ok but alot of people dont have the luxury of just getting tuned as soon as they get the EM. when I had my utec I didnt get tuned for a whole year because of my location and i relied on my guages to let me know what was going on to keep me safe.
that's assuming the OP has enough knowledge/wanting to tune himself. With most other non-self tuning EMS's, the EM = the tune.
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:39 PM   #9
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that's assuming the OP has enough knowledge/wanting to tune himself. With most other non-self tuning EMS's, the EM = the tune.
I would call it a base map more than a tune but whatever. I had a friend get A map from cobb, he had no guages. when he did get his guages he found out that it was well below the claimed PSI and power. I will just agree to disagree
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By EM I am assuming a custom reflash, not just a base map. . .I guess the OP just needs to clairify more specifically what type of EM he is talking about.
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Old 02-13-2006, 11:28 PM   #11
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sorry for the ambiguity. im probably going to end up getting an AP or UTEC and flash a base map initially then i would get a custom tune when i upgrade my turbo or get enough money for just a custom tune.
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