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Old 02-10-2006, 11:12 PM   #1
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Keep your eyes open for Illinois State Police Mobile Automatic Revenue Generation Devices.


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Old 02-10-2006, 11:20 PM   #2
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sweet. you think that thing will register over 150? Time to go find out.
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Old 02-10-2006, 11:25 PM   #3
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A brand new van with temporary plates. I bet it's paid off in no time.
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Old 02-10-2006, 11:27 PM   #4
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I believe this tickets are not moving violations, so its no big deal, you can just ignore them. That is what I've done with any non moving violation I've ever gotten.
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Old 02-10-2006, 11:44 PM   #5
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Default Unless $375 and possibly $1K is cheap to you... behave yourself around these vans.

I think these are the same types of vans mentioned last year.... behave yourselves!

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Illinois Speed Cameras to Take License on 2nd Offense
Illinois will begin using photo radar in freeway work zones in July. Second offense tickets are $1000 with license suspension.

Beginning in July the State of Illinois will use speed cameras in areas designated as "work zones" on major freeways. Anyone caught by the devices will be mailed a $375 ticket for the first offense, but a second ticket will cost $1000 and comes with a 90-day license suspension. Drivers will also receive demerit points against their license, which allows insurance companies to raise their insurance rates. This represents the harshest penalty structure yet for a city using photo enforcement.

The state will begin with two camera vans issuing tickets in zones with speed limits lowered to 45 MPH. Photographs of both the driver's face and license plate are taken. Officials announced the plan on the Dan Ryan Expressway suggesting Chicago area roads are likely to be a target. Illinois Tollway Executive Director Jack Hartman promised more work zones: "Since the Tollway just launched our $5.3 billion Congestion Relief Plan, drivers will see more work zones on the Tollway than they have in the past."

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IDOT's announcement represents yet another use of technology by authorities to crack down on traffic scofflaws. Chicago has been installing stationary cameras at busy intersections to catch and ticket red-light runners. During approximately the first year of the program, cameras at 10 locations had generated 67,400 citations, city officials said last fall.

Source: IDOT camera vans to catch speeders (Chicago Tribune, 3/30/2005)
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Old 02-11-2006, 12:01 AM   #6
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Old 02-11-2006, 12:11 AM   #7
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I'm glad they're here, as long as they stay in the work zones. I'm a city employee and even if these are state cops they are the ones that keep my a$$ safe at my place of work.
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Old 02-11-2006, 09:30 AM   #8
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just run into it and say the van was going 20 under the speed limit.that thing is b.s . they should spend money on removing the tolls that were only supposed to be up for a few years 20 years later they are still up
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Old 02-11-2006, 10:14 AM   #9
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welp, even though i was just about to put my front license plate on (got 2 warnings in the past 5 months...suburban police really dont have anything better to do, huh?), i guess thats been thrown out the window.
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Old 02-11-2006, 10:24 AM   #10
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"Since the Tollway just launched our $5.3 billion Congestion Relief Plan, drivers will see more work zones on the Tollway than they have in the past."

Congestion Relief = Speed Limited Work Zones, welcome to Illinois.

While I make fun, I have no issue with monitoring speeding to protect highway workers.
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Old 02-11-2006, 10:51 AM   #11
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+1 for keeping workers safe. Highway speeds are out of control as it is, and construction workers keep getting killed by people who are trying to read the newspaper, shaving, applying makeup, eating, etc while zooming along at 80mph.

It isn't like the workers are getting hit by drunk drivers at 2am. It is the commuters during rush hour times that the vans are targeting. The solution for those folks is to move closer to work or leave earlier, not to speed and risk the lives of those around them.
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Old 02-11-2006, 11:01 AM   #12
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Hard to miss that thing.
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Old 02-11-2006, 11:15 AM   #13
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+1 for keeping workers safe. Highway speeds are out of control as it is, and construction workers keep getting killed by people who are trying to read the newspaper, shaving, applying makeup, eating, etc while zooming along at 80mph.

It isn't like the workers are getting hit by drunk drivers at 2am. It is the commuters during rush hour times that the vans are targeting. The solution for those folks is to move closer to work or leave earlier, not to speed and risk the lives of those around them.
Personaly, I'm not having fun unless im risking the lives of others, and I haven't killed anyone. The people that hit workers are going to hit workers no matter what the speed limit is. The speed limit on most of our highways is assinine. 55mph, RIIIIIGHT. I generaly average 100+ mph on the highway.
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Old 02-11-2006, 11:38 AM   #14
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True, the speed limit of 55 is bs. I personaly like to stick around 75, but construction zones are another thing: There should be two limits, 55 in the workzone, with 40 if workers are present. (Big holiday, 2am, and they're going to inforce the speed limit because a worker might get hit, yeah right)
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Old 02-11-2006, 01:37 PM   #15
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just run into it and say the van was going 20 under the speed limit.that thing is b.s . they should spend money on removing the tolls that were only supposed to be up for a few years 20 years later they are still up
the van's are stationary... theyre not driving around...
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Old 02-11-2006, 02:00 PM   #16
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I haven't seen a person actually working on a highway in years. I just see signs and cones, and those orange blinking dealies...
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Old 02-11-2006, 04:39 PM   #17
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+1 for keeping workers safe. Highway speeds are out of control as it is, and construction workers keep getting killed by people who are trying to read the newspaper, shaving, applying makeup, eating, etc while zooming along at 80mph.

It isn't like the workers are getting hit by drunk drivers at 2am. It is the commuters during rush hour times that the vans are targeting. The solution for those folks is to move closer to work or leave earlier, not to speed and risk the lives of those around them.
highway speeds are out of control? i used to commute on 294 on a daily basis, averaged around 75-80mph. everyone got by just fine. the closest accidents came when people spotted a state trooper parked on the shoulder, or a state trooper would do 60mph in the left lane, holding up traffic for miles.

the only way these silly vans will protect contruction workers is if a car hits the van instead of the worker. cement barriers protect workers, vans with cameras generate revenue from speeding violations.

i think people will end up being injured or killed in accidents caused by these pointless machines. people will see these and slam on the brakes, causing accidents that wouldn't happen if no vans were present.
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Old 02-11-2006, 04:51 PM   #18
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omg those things are asinine. what a good way to spend more money
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Old 02-11-2006, 05:09 PM   #19
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Highway speeds are only "out of control" because the highway speed limits are so ridiculously low. There was a story on the news last week where they kept going on about how the average speeder on IL highways is going 20-40 mph over the limit. No ****?! They're going the usual highway limit/speed for any other state.
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Old 02-11-2006, 06:49 PM   #20
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I have a couple good shots of myself in CO- with the oh....look. They were cute and nothing was marked, the saavy operator even waited till I passed and wrote down my plate #(no front). I'll slow down for 1000, no problem.
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Old 02-11-2006, 07:37 PM   #21
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True, the speed limit of 55 is bs. I personaly like to stick around 75, but construction zones are another thing: There should be two limits, 55 in the workzone, with 40 if workers are present. (Big holiday, 2am, and they're going to inforce the speed limit because a worker might get hit, yeah right)
+1

Agreed. Unless there is an obvious reason such as reduced number of lanes or poor road surface quality (while under construction), I think workzone speedlimits should not apply when workers are not even present.

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Old 02-11-2006, 09:10 PM   #22
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I agree that parked cops or these vans are more likley to cause an accident that prevent one. I was coming home this past Friday and right at lake cook and 294 there was a trooper off in that salt shed. This freaking idiot slams on his brakes to almost a dead stop in the left lane. I just did get stopped in time I couldn't believe it. That cop should have given the guy a ticket for that kind of BS.
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Old 02-13-2006, 09:42 AM   #23
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If it uses radar (which I assume it does since it appears to be an "unmanned type of operation) I could care less... I can pick up radar miles away with the V1. Also, when was the last time you were the only person on the road? Chances are even if it's instant-on somehow, you'll still be able to pick it up way ahead of time.

Also, how are they going to get accurate pictures unless they use a flash? How are they going to justify using a flash at night and blinding drivers? Heh, I guess they'll learn after the first few people crash off the road from being blinded.
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Old 02-13-2006, 10:03 AM   #24
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If it uses radar (which I assume it does since it appears to be an "unmanned type of operation) I could care less... I can pick up radar miles away with the V1. Also, when was the last time you were the only person on the road? Chances are even if it's instant-on somehow, you'll still be able to pick it up way ahead of time.

Also, how are they going to get accurate pictures unless they use a flash? How are they going to justify using a flash at night and blinding drivers? Heh, I guess they'll learn after the first few people crash off the road from being blinded.
nah, hasn't affected any of the other states. They don't care about lives, just revenue. In fact, they might want MORE accidents, since that means they can issue citations for the accidents in turn raising more revenue.
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Old 02-13-2006, 10:29 AM   #25
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If it uses radar (which I assume it does since it appears to be an "unmanned type of operation) I could care less... I can pick up radar miles away with the V1. Also, when was the last time you were the only person on the road? Chances are even if it's instant-on somehow, you'll still be able to pick it up way ahead of time.

Also, how are they going to get accurate pictures unless they use a flash? How are they going to justify using a flash at night and blinding drivers? Heh, I guess they'll learn after the first few people crash off the road from being blinded.
Obviously, with radar they're easy to spot. But even without radar, look at the size of that thar white whale. Should be able to spot it visually from a good distance.

I assumed the large two lights angled off the top-rear were for flash.

Can't wait till someone crashes into one of these vans and sues the state for knowingly parking a vehicle in a place it could easily be hit.
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