do i need streettuner

[imma_stocker]

do i need the StreetTuner to download/buy a map for stage2 but safely push higher boost?
i mean, i want to SAFELY boost closer to 17psi but i don't wanna risk killing my car. and i know some companies sell pretuned maps for certain wants but they are expensive and if i need to buy them(~$500) and StreetTuner($400) i may as well throw on a vf turbo. besides, i don't even want to THINK about tuning myself.

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[hondaeater69]

if you don't want to tune yourself, don't even think about getting street tuner. If you already have the AP, all you need to do is find a tuner and get a custom map made, it will only cost you dyno time, which will vary from 150-300.

[ivrep]

I second this. Too much boost is death sentence for a wrx turbo.

[Zumble]

What you want is a accessport and someone that does PRO tuner. Street Tuner is the tuning software for the end user. For joe schmoe that wants to tune their car themselves.

[mcowger]

Originally Posted by ivrep

I second this. Too much boost is death sentence for a wrx turbo.

Lord. There are people running in excess of 20psi on a WRX motor. Its not the boost, its boost done WRONG that is a death sentance.

Granted, the OP probably doesn't belong in ST, which is the ultimate question.

[imma_stocker]

correct, i do not want StreetTuner, unless i absolutely need it. and even if i did only bad things would happen. i've just seen some posts and threads by tuning shops selling their maps for APs and i wasn't sure if i needed to upgrade to Streettuner to consider their maps that have worked for many others w/o problems. dammit, y does it have be so complicated for me to safely push 17psi. its a pretty reasonable number isn't it?

any recommendations as to how to achieve this goal?

[hondaeater69]

Originally Posted by imma_stocker

dammit, y does it have be so complicated for me to safely push 17psi. its a pretty reasonable number isn't it?

any recommendations as to how to achieve this goal?

it's not hard at all. I would recommend finding a tuner within driving distance that does PROtunes, go there, explain your goals to the tuner, and be done with it.

www.cobbtuning.com has a list of protuners.

[imma_stocker]

the closest tuner is about an hour and a half away and i know protuners charge out the butt. where is the list of tuners that sell their maps via download?
c'mon i know u guys are out there

[anthonyrb98]

check out pdxtuning or tdctuning

[fogdor]

Originally Posted by mcowger

Lord. There are people running in excess of 20psi on a WRX motor. Its not the boost, its boost done WRONG that is a death sentance.

Granted, the OP probably doesn't belong in ST, which is the ultimate question.

The original poster said 20 psi was death for a wrx TURBO. 20 psi on a td04 is prolly not a good idea.

[imma_stocker]

20psi !?!?!? hahaha i don't know if my turbo or me would die first but we would all find out pretty quick. i just wanna push 17psi and run a little rich for safe measure. rich helps prevent detonation doesn't it? 5-10hp is nothing compared to reliability.

so i can't just buy a map from a tuner online? i guess it would cost about the same either way. so how much should it cost to get a protune for me?

[hondaeater69]

protune should be between 1-2 hours, the hourly rates tuners charge will vary somewhat, i would call the tuner and get a qoute. custom tune > mail tune.

[kevin2.5rs]

Originally Posted by imma_stocker

i just wanna push 17psi and run a little rich for safe measure. rich helps prevent detonation doesn't it? 5-10hp is nothing compared to reliability.

If reliability is more important than 5-10 hp stay with cobbs stg 2 map

[imma_stocker]

Originally Posted by kevin2.5rs

If reliability is more important than 5-10 hp stay with cobbs stg 2 map

17psi a better tune should add a bit more than 10 hp. i meant i would rather not run too lean cuz i don't know what knocking and pinging sound like but i know they aren't good for anything but damaging my engine. besides that, if my turbo goes out, i could always replace that a lot easier and cheaper than internals. maybe i'll be content with stage2 after i fix these leaks, prolly not.